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If large meplats enhance penetration, then how about a wadcutter bullet? Norbert?
29 April 2003, 07:15
500grainsIf large meplats enhance penetration, then how about a wadcutter bullet? Norbert?
Let's assume we are talking about doubles, so there will be no feeding problems.
And let's assume we are talking about an American double that regulates everything, not one of those finicky antiques from across the Atlantic.
How well would a full wadcutter bullet (perfect cylindrical shape) penetrate compared to other bullets, such as a conventional round nosed solid, a large meplate like those offered by GS Custom or Bridger Bullets, etc.?
29 April 2003, 07:38
RobgunbuilderI've seen a 1000 gr Bridger Flat Meplate bullet go through "4 ft of oak" I'd say not badly at all! It went straight also!-Rob
29 April 2003, 10:36
700 nitrorob i have a bunch of the 1000 grn bridger solids impressive looking bullet
29 April 2003, 11:50
<Axel>Robgunbuilder, was that 1000 gr bullet fired from a 600 OK? That is impressive penetration. I can recall one individual here at AR stating that his 9.3X62 would not penetrate 3 inches of English oak!
Axel
29 April 2003, 11:53
<Norbert>quote:
Originally posted by 500grains:
How well would a full wadcutter bullet (perfect cylindrical shape) penetrate compared to other bullets, such as a conventional round nosed solid, a large meplate like those offered by GS Custom or Bridger Bullets, etc.?
Not as good as a well balanced diameter of the meplat. The meplat or better, the cavitator disk of the Superpenetrator, is only responsible for the stability of the flight in the target and therefore penetration in aqueous tissue, but is also exposed to the decelerating resistance in front of the bullet. The optimmum diameter depends on caliber, muzzle velocity and bullet weight.
29 April 2003, 13:10
RobgunbuilderI don't know about a 9.3X62 but a 1000 gr bullet at 2500 fps is a serious chunk of brass. A 470 Mbogo with solids will make it through 2 ft of Oak.
29 April 2003, 13:37
GrandpasezAxel--That 1000 gr was fired from Rob's 700 BMG
improved I think.They are still waiting for 600
OK brass.In heavy tissue a wadcutter won't be
quite as good as a flat nosed African style,
but it would be better than a spitzer.But if wadcutter had narrow shoulder it would work
fairly good.. Ed.
29 April 2003, 15:20
<Axel>Is that seasoned dry oak, or wet green oak? I have heard that seasoned dry wood is much more difficult to penetrate. Once heard tales of a 416 Rigby that penetrated over 2.5 feet of living oak.
Axel
[ 04-29-2003, 06:21: Message edited by: Axel ]29 April 2003, 16:17
Mickey1I once shot through an Oak tree that was so big that I later cut it down and made a Dining Room Table out of one of the cross sections. Or was it Walnut?
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29 April 2003, 16:37
AtkinsonI tried some barnes solids with a flat wadcutter nose and feeding in a bolt gun was a problem of course. the tended to tumble...
then I started useing homemade simi wadcutters and everything came together...I begged all the bullet makers to make them but it all fell on deaf ears until GS Customs made one and then I got my first real sho nuff flat nose solid, happy days, not Bridger has a very pretty simi wadcutter solid and I'm getting some Groove bullets next...
The flat nose solid is the only solid to use, now if someone will just put a pronounced cutting shoulder on them, you will, in effect, have a wadcutter..
29 April 2003, 18:52
RobgunbuilderSeasoned California Red Oak. These sections are from a 3 ft diameter tree I had to cut down seven years ago. Toughest stuff to penetrate I ever saw! We were shooting into the cross sections, one lined up behind the other with a small air gap between them.-Rob
29 April 2003, 20:08
OverkillRobgunbuilder!
What caliber does that 1000 grainer have???
05 May 2003, 08:22
AtkinsonBTW, I don't know that flat nose bullets enhance penitration, that has not been my experience although they do penitrate like the dickens as will about any solid....All solids today seem to penitrate more than enough.
What a flat nose solid does is cut a cookie cutter hole that bleeds profusly, does a lot more internal damage and mainly drives in a straight line which a round nose will not do as consistently....
05 May 2003, 11:05
snowmanBasically what you want is a bullet with a wadcutter shoulder similar to the RWS "TUG" bullet but with a flat nose ? Here we are trying to invent something that Breneke invented 75 years ago.
06 May 2003, 08:54
500grainsquote:
Originally posted by snowman:
Basically what you want is a bullet with a wadcutter shoulder similar to the RWS "TUG" bullet but with a flat nose ? Here we are trying to invent something that Breneke invented 75 years ago.
No. Full wadcutter like the 148 grain .357 lead wadcutter for target shooting.
06 May 2003, 14:04
SocratesHow about a spire point, with a caliber diameter
sharp edge?
Sort of a monometal solid wadcutter, with a spire point on top for aero?
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