What action would you use or what rifle would you start with, then weight, barrel length etc.

Just doing this mostly as a mental exercise for now.

There was a time (I haven't checked lately) when you could buy a used German Weatherby chambered in .460 for about 50% of the new cost due to the dissillusionment of the buyers who didn't like the recoil. Now, if you handload it you can do whatever you want with the cartridge. You could also restock the rifle with something more appropriate then the factory stock. Since most of the owners in Europe apparently only fired them two or three times, you also got the cartridges remaining in the box they bought at the same time. I think they may be one of the better deals on a big bore.

really want one?
get a cz in 458 lott, and have it rechambered, boltface, and whatever minor feeding will need to be done.. -- needs to be 10.5

call it
800 for the lott
250 for rechamber, other work, and perhaps bluing

have it bedded CERTAINLY!!


you can build them on
cz550
enfields


and then high $$ actions

jeffe

The .460 Wby cartridge is an interesting one, best suited by making it into a 500A2, since a .458 with 500 gr bullets at 2400fps seems to be optimal for hunting reliability as well as shootability.. As I've said before a CZ550 in .416 converts to a 500A2 with minimal effort. Add some crossbolts and some amateur steelbedding and your in buisness even with the original stock. Add a Mcmillan express stock if you feel you must. Now thats Bang for the Buck.

What is the magazine capacity of a 460wby on a CZ, or enfield action?

I had my CZ 550 converted from a .458 Lott to .460 Weatherby. It was very little trouble to get it converted, the .460 round fed out of the magazine and started into the chamber even before the work was started. The magazine will hold three down, a fourth one JUST BARELY won't fit in. I have put quite a few full power loads through the rifle and the factory stock has held up very nicely; I had it bedded by the gunsmith.

If you want a useless cartridge, you may as well simply buy it in a useless rifle,to match, a PF Weatherby MK V Dangerous Game Rifle, for $3000! I would, personally, rather have a RUGER RSM MK II, chambered for 458LOTT, in the $1600 price range. Half the cost, and twice the rifle, not to mention chambered for a better cartridge.

Just kidding,............ MAYBE!


If you really want a 460 WBY chambering, the Ruger, re-worked to take the 460 WBY, would make a lot of sense, and most likely come in under the cost of a PF, WBY so-called DGR!


However, there is no accounting for the things people want to own. Gun people, are no exception!

I love double Rifles, and NE cartridges, and if they cost exactly the same price, there are those who wouldn't own a double rifle even if they were cheaper than a Remington 700, and would rather have the 700.

I do own quite a few bolt, and single shot rifles as well as doubles. In the case of the 460WBY cartridge, My opinion is it is an ill concieved "LOOK AT ME" design, at best. It will do absolutely nothing that a 100 year old 450NE 3 1/4" will not do as well, and in many cases, better! That is, except burn a lot more powder, and produce un-needed velocity, and recoil.

The 460 cartridge can be loaded back to a more comfortable recoil, and with less powder, so the velocity is more in line with the "WINDOW" of usefullness of .458 dia bullet. My question is, What is gained by back loading a TOO LARGE case back to what is already done quite sucessfully, by better designed cases, that are not over bore capacity? The 458LOTT for example, is actually loaded too hot for it's best use, and it works better, on game, loaded bact to the speed that was origenally asked for of the 458 Win Mag, of 2150-2200 fps with a 500 gr bullet. I actually loaded my LOTT to duplicate the 450NE 3 1/4", a 480 gr soft, or solid at 2150 fps Anything above that, is false gain, IMO, and frought with land mines, in draw-backs, like recoil, and wasted powder !

Just one man's opinion, and one not shared by WBY fans! That's OK, however, they don't have to shoot my rifles, and I don't want to shoot theirs!


........LOOK OUT! INCOMING!

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Originally posted by Jarrod:
What action would you use or what rifle would you start with, then weight, barrel length etc.

Just get a CZ550 in 416 Rigby and rebarrel to 450 Rigby. It has the same case capacity as the 460 Wby, but is a much classier round. And there will be fewer modifications needed to your rifle (costs less) if you wo 450 Rigby.

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LOOK OUT! INCOMING!

HaHa Im actually not going to have one built anytime soon. After watching some of Saeed's champions. I had the idea that it would be a good rifle for a redneck version of the champions one of these days.
As most people around here think a 300 magnum is a cannon.

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Originally posted by 500grains:

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Originally posted by Jarrod:
What action would you use or what rifle would you start with, then weight, barrel length etc.

Just get a CZ550 in 416 Rigby and rebarrel to 450 Rigby. It has the same case capacity as the 460 Wby, but is a much classier round. And there will be fewer modifications needed to your rifle (costs less) if you wo 450 Rigby.

Grains,
isnt the CZ already avaliable in 450 Rigby?

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Originally posted by Jarrod:

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LOOK OUT! INCOMING!

HaHa As most people around here think a 300 magnum is a cannon.

Maybe I better loan you a 10.5 lb 470NE double rifle to let your buddies shoot! If They think a 300 mag is a thumper, it would almost be worth the drive there to watch!

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Originally posted by MacD37:

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Originally posted by Jarrod:

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LOOK OUT! INCOMING!

HaHa As most people around here think a 300 magnum is a cannon.

Maybe I better loan you a 10.5 lb 470NE double rifle to let your buddies shoot! If They think a 300 mag is a thumper, it would almost be worth the drive there to watch!

That sounds like a good idea to me. I believe I can find a video camera around here somewhere.
I would like to shoot it myself as I've never shot a double except for a shotgun.
Then we would have The Champions Part 2 "Redneck Edition"
Hey Y'All watch this

While your here you could make an hour drive down to Allen Wilson's Wilderness Lodge and kill a hog or buffalo or something with that 470.

I'm with Jarrod, I think CZ already advertises a 550 in 450 Rigby. At less than $1900, it seems that would be the way to go.

Jarrod

If you ever shot a 12 gauge double with some turkey mag loads, I would think that would be about the same kick as some or most big bore double rifles.

Correct me if I'm wrong but i have never had the SNOT kicked out of me more than shooting my 12 guage SxS with 00 buck or turkey loads

Jarrod, if all you want is to mess up your buddies' heads then buy a Handi Rifle in 45-70 and ream it out to one of the extended 45s like 45-120. I promise that will get their attention!

The next rung up on the bubba ladder (trust me, I know them all) is a Colt Light Rifle in 300 WIn rebarreled to 458 Win. YOU CAN DO EET!

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Originally posted by Jarrod:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jarrod:
\That sounds like a good idea to me. I believe I can find a video camera around here somewhere.
I would like to shoot it myself as I've never shot a double except for a shotgun.
Then we would have The Champions Part 2 "Redneck Edition"
Hey Y'All watch this

While your here you could make an hour drive down to Allen Wilson's Wilderness Lodge and kill a hog or buffalo or something with that 470.

Actually the 460 WBY would kick more that the 470NE double, if you want to regester a supprised look on your buddie's faces!

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by RIODOT
Jarrod

If you ever shot a 12 gauge double with some turkey mag loads, I would think that would be about the same kick as some or most big bore double rifles.

Correct me if I'm wrong but i have never had the SNOT kicked out of me more than shooting my 12 guage SxS with 00 buck or turkey loads

Riodot, I think you will be in for a little supprise! when you fire a full house load of 470NE, or 500NE!

Why go with a belted case? Go 450 Dakota or 450 Rigby, beautiful beltless, rimless designs that headspace on the shoulder.

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Originally posted by BigFiveJack:
Why go with a belted case? Go 450 Dakota or 450 Rigby, beautiful beltless, rimless designs that headspace on the shoulder.

fair question.. sounds like the fella wants a 460.. which is a belt, and not a rarity round.

jeffe

PLEASE get video!! Dont let them see you shoot it, just tell em its like shooting an 870 with mag load slugs. What a pisser! Hell, I'd donate money to the ammo just to see it on the site!!