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I was looking at an Interarms Mark X .375 this afternoon. I have been in the market for a 375 for an upcoming leopard hunt and, from what I've read; this would make a nice hunting gun. Here is the question; The Mark X I looked at was manufactured in Manchester, England but did not say "Whitworth" or "Express" on the barrel. What is the difference between the Mark X and the Whitworth? In addition, the one I looked at had a Williams sight added; should this model have a leaf sight? Any information is helpful, and any thoughts on value are appreciated (other than the sight, it’s probably in 90% condition). Thanks "I speak of Africa and golden joys; the joy of wandering through lonely lands; the joy of hunting the mighty and terrible lords of the wilderness, the cunning, the wary and the grim." Theodore Roosevelt, Khartoum, March 15, 1910 | ||
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Do not know about the one you looked at but Interarms has at least 2 different 375 H&H's. One is the "African" looking Whitworth. The other was a more conventional looking sporter I think for a while it was called the Alaskan. All the Whitworth's I have seen, [and I had a 375 and a 458] they said Whitworth on the front reciever ring. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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i think the alaskan had willams sights and monte carlo stock with black forend and pistol gripcap. | |||
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Bingo! There is no real consensus that the "Manchester" really means assembly in England, even on the Whitworths. Here is an Alaskan (at what seems to me to be a pretty high price, but it is said to be NIB). Here is a thread at NitroExpress.Com about Whitworths and Manchester. ------------------------------- Some Pictures from Namibia Some Pictures from Zimbabwe An Elephant Story | |||
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It goes a little deeper than that thread, but not much. Zastava had significant inventory of parts made for Whitworth rifles when Whitworth stopped production. Interarms bought all that inventory, most of which had Whitworth markings but never saw England. Lastly, Whitworth sold their remaining inventory to Interarms (who was their US importer as well, some of which may have been proofed in England but never stocked. I have read on these forums that Whitworth used barrels made by other suppliers for some production and Zastava barrels on others. I don't know about that. But what is for sale is several iterations of rifles: Whitworths produced by whoever Whitworth really was in England, Whitworths finished in the US from surplus Whitworth parts from England, Whitworths produced from a combination of English produced parts and other parts assembled in the US, and finally actions and barreled actions produced from Zastava inventory marked Whitworth that never saw English soil assembled in the US with various US aftermarket parts. Clear as muddy water, eh? "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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I knew you guys would help me out. I appreciate the information. Based on the pictures in the gunbroker listing, I looked at an Alaskan, albeit not marked as such. It already appears to be on hold for another customer now (they neglected to mention that) but may be available in a few days. They are (were) asking $600. Now, can anyone recommend an affordable .375 for a leopard/PG hunt? Keep in mind; I've got a kid in college.... "I speak of Africa and golden joys; the joy of wandering through lonely lands; the joy of hunting the mighty and terrible lords of the wilderness, the cunning, the wary and the grim." Theodore Roosevelt, Khartoum, March 15, 1910 | |||
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I have one of the Alaskans. They are not bad but I have put a lot of work into mine and will probably spend even more on it. The Model 70s are still around. There is one the classifieds here for $1400, and I see them on Gunbroker in stainless/synthetic for $1200 or more. The Whitworths show up here and on the auction sites too. You might look at the CZ 550 or the Ruger Hawkeye in 375 Ruger. Of course, you do not have to have a .375 for plains game and leopard, but if that is what you want, why not? ------------------------------- Some Pictures from Namibia Some Pictures from Zimbabwe An Elephant Story | |||
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Thanks Charles. I’ve done a couple of PG hunts with various 30 caliber rifles, all borrowed from guides. I usually travel to Africa on business which makes taking a rifle impractical. This time, it’s purely a hunting trip/vacation for my family, so I figured to bring my '06 for my wife (her first hunt) and a .375 for me. I like the caliber, shot it well in the past and heck, it's not a bad first gun for dangerous game and bear and moose too. It also never hurts to “need†a new rifle…. I'll keep my eyes peeled. "I speak of Africa and golden joys; the joy of wandering through lonely lands; the joy of hunting the mighty and terrible lords of the wilderness, the cunning, the wary and the grim." Theodore Roosevelt, Khartoum, March 15, 1910 | |||
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interarms mark X in 375 is NOT english made there is a chance that a whitworth was barreled in england, but the receiver is still yugo made heh, I have an enfield with british AND russian acceptence marks.. but still MADE IN THE USA at a winchester plant.. jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I thought you and Boo Radley were both from the Carolina's...? I owned one of the express sighted Whitworths in 458, and a friend has one in 375. For your purposes, I would suggest just buying a CZ in 375 OR 416 Rigby. I own one of each, along with a 505 Gibbs, and enjoy shooting them all. Hard to argue with the price and quality and value. Rich DRSS | |||
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Idaho, Thanks for the suggestion; I'll take a look at the CZs, although I'd like to shoot a .416 first to check on the recoil. By the way, they were from Alabama; I use my dogs name as a log on. A deal with my wife to get a bird dog allowed her to name them. Now I have a brace of Llewellin setters named Atticus and Scout. I think there is a Jem or Boo on the way in the next few years.... "I speak of Africa and golden joys; the joy of wandering through lonely lands; the joy of hunting the mighty and terrible lords of the wilderness, the cunning, the wary and the grim." Theodore Roosevelt, Khartoum, March 15, 1910 | |||
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I forgot to mention the Remington 798, which uses the same base action as the Interarms and Whitworth, the Zastava copy of the FN action. I have not seen one. Some reports indicate fit and finish on these is not so good, but you may want to check them out. For me, they would likely need some work (new safety, bedding, possible stock changes, sight adjustment) but they may be an option. Good luck! ------------------------------- Some Pictures from Namibia Some Pictures from Zimbabwe An Elephant Story | |||
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From what Ive heard, the English assembled whitworth has 1. whitworth on the stock; and 2) whitworth on the red rubber ecoil pad; my 458 has both featuree.
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By the way, my whitworth has a smooth action, great wood stock, and is very pertable. I dont think the recoil with factory loads is really any different from my 416 rigby loaded to 2350 fps with 400 gr bullets, but I did replace the original red rubber recoil pad. IMHO, a very usable rifle, and light enough to carry for laong periods of time. And it costs a fraction of my 416!
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Here's a fairly comprehensive thread on Whitworths: WHITWORTH NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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