I have been looking for a nice .416 RSM for a little while now. Seems from the ones I have seen the wood on these go from mediocre to excellent. I have bid on one on gunbroker and after losing the bid the seller immediatley contacted me and tried to get me to buy it for the price just under what it went for. I felt like something was up and told him my price was now lower. I then started contacting online dealers seeing if the could get me one and if I could possibly see th rifles before I spent my hard earned 1800 dollars. the responses I have gotten go from out of stock to in stock but unable to help cause they are in a wharehouse and too busy selling guns to others to grab one and send a picture. So where do you guys think I should go from here or I am being too much of a pain as usual.

I doubt any distributor is going to offer you a 'hand-selected' piece, and few retailers will have more than one in stock.

If you cannot find an accomodating retailer, just wait for a used one to be advertised with photos. Having a .416RSM is not that important, in the grand scheme of things.

George

Yeah i am in no need of it now and I am taking my time to find what I want. I understand the distributors not letting me hand pick one from there store but I have an issue ordering something without first seeing it.

Call Jerry's sport
tell them you want to buy one with great QUARTERSAWN wood, and are willing to wait until they get a great one

give them your credit card
wait
jeffe

Take a look. $1299 the wood looks Nice. I'd buy it but I already have 3 RSM's.

Brad

http://www.auctionarms.com/sea....cfm?itemnum=8971581

Yeah I already seen that one. The scratch in the side of it turned me off of it. I dont know how big or noticable it is but from the picture it does look pretty big.

Why wouldn't you buy it and apply some walnut stain and/or stock oil to the scratch? Quick and easy fix and not expensive. Wood stocks get scratched, which is why most of mine are now synthetic and I don't worry about it. My RSM .458Lott is, however, the stock walnut. It has travelled around Africa via commercial and charter air, lots of trucks and on foot. It has character.

not good wood for an RSM -- but that scratch doesn't even look to be through the paint.. er polyfinish on the stock

seems rather plain

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I have bid on one on gunbroker and after losing the bid the seller immediatley contacted me and tried to get me to buy it for the price just under what it went for. I felt like something was up and told him my price was now lower.

If you report him to gunbroker, they may pull his account. There is a lot of shadow bidding that goes on.

Am unsure what exactly you meen by shadow bidding but I thought from the way it looked he had someone else bid on it to drive the price up and when I stopped bidding and lost he tried to still sell me the gun. Im unsure what a good price for a used one would go cause new ones can be had for 1700-1800 if Im not mistaken.

Cabelas web site lists several for sale in the Fine Rifle section of the Gun Library.

I did findthis one on Gunsamaerica but it seems the price is a little high for a used gun. Also I have heard things said about the earlier RSM's being heavier and not balancing as good, can anyone tell me if this is similar to the new ones or not.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/925...LE_in_416_Rigby.htm#

The Ruger RSM chambered in .416 Rigby is the finest factory rifle offered on the market today. You are not being a pain. The factory may be able to upgrade the stock for you I would contact them and ask the question. However, I would not compromise with a retailer. Hang in there until you get what you want.

Ruger Safari Magnum

Generation 1 1990 - 1995

Generation 2 1995 - 2000

Generation 3 2000 - Present

I prefer Generation 3 balance.

rather a bold blanket statement to make...?
About half of the ones I have seen, from the way they looked coming out of the box, were made from a #3 grade creosoted fencepost.

I'll put my money on CZ at half the cost of the new $2335 retail in 2009.

Rich
Buff Killer

If you HAVE to have a 416 RSM you just put yourself into a sellors market...plus the Auction sites are full of sandbagging or "shadow bidding"...I wouldn't buy ANYTHING from any one of them...but there are still plenty of excellent commercial magnum mauser actions available the just need a new barrel or custom mausers that only need the same treatment, and there are many custom rifle makers that are still doing excellent work that compares favorably price wise with the over inflated RSM market...plus 416 Rems that only need a rechamber basically or left alone as the two are close enough to each other as to be almost identical as far as game goes...there are many ways to get to a 416 caliber without having to purchase a RSM rifle.

Just a thought...

I have a 416 Taylor barrel I put on an early Tang action Ruger that isn't far enough behind the RSM to bother with rechambering and the extra cost of new dies, brass, etc. Besides if I needed more gun I would step up to one of my 45 cals and really have some additional pizzazz.

Luck on your quest.

Ha Ha HA HA. Get some glasses. The RSM is the finest factory rifle produced probably ever.

While the .416 Taylor is a fine round, IT IS NOT a .416 Rigby.

I would not worry myself stepping up to a .458 when .500's are available.

Well....everyone has their own ideas of what is and what isn't, now don't they Buliwyf....I don't think I ever even intimated the Taylor was a 416 Rigby although the ballistis are very close to what the 416 R produced in the Olden days...not to get a pissing contest going...I mean Dayummm hasn't that old argument been tossed around enough...I run my Taylor at ~2350 fs with a 400 gr bullet and roughly 150 fs more with a 350 gr...I think the Rigby got its rep with similar numbers...and that isn't too far off what Hornady posts for it's 416 Rigby DGX cartridges, at least that's what I read in the 2008 Hornady catalog...care to use my magnifying glass???? Of course I could add a couple more grains of powder and match those numbers...but I see no need. We all know those numbers can be greatly exceeded with todays rifles and powders...using the Rigby case...and loading to the higher pressures.

And it doesn't really make much difference to me anyway...if I wanted I could reach across the work bench and pick out a receiver and build a rifle using any cartridge or caliber I happened to get interested in...I don't need glasses...the ones I use right now work perfectly well...Of course I'm way to cheap to deal with the 50 cals, although the 50-51 cal offerings still tickle my fancy and one may make their way into my stable someday.

If you're intersted in something slightly larger I will let you try my NEF USH with 1100 gr, 0.730" pills, 3.85" case, 1700 fs, 12GAFH varminter, or the soon to be tried 1500-2000 gr multi slug rabbit getters...I think it might just give any hairy legged, machoman the smackaround he requires and get his pecker waving a little harder and faster. Personally I'm way to wussy for all that stuff.

Enjoy your toys.

Buliwyf...I'll have to jump on your wagon here...I too believe that the RSM is a fine rifle for the price...and that price is somewhere between $1700-1950 these days. Get it bedded straight away and put a Timney trigger...and a pad to your LOP.... in it and you have yourself a gun that will serve you well. They're a touch heavy in 375, but about right in 416 and 458.

Gary
DRSS
NRA Lifer
SCI
DSC

Well got a little tired of the the auction sites and went to the local dealer and he gave me a better price tahn i could find online plus I didnt have to pay for it to be shipped to an FFL.
So know I have to start looking for some reloading data and get the supplies on order to reload it. Anyone have any preferences on powders to use wih 400 grain hornadys.

Congrats! I like Reloader 19, but so far all I have used is Barnes 400g soft and solid.

I use H4831 in my 416 RSM under a 400Gr. Barnes banded solid. Got great penetration on an elephant with this combo. That being said, I'd try IMR 4831 if I was just starting. I tried a few rounds with this powder and achieved similar velocities with IMR 4831 with less powder than with H4831. The IMR version is a little faster so give that a try first. I need to explore this further when the weather gets warmer. All loads were ignited by a Fed 215 primer.

I bought Lyman dies for mine and they work fine. It seems all the die makers charge a premium for Rigby dies except Lyman.

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Originally posted by Buliwyf:
Ruger Safari Magnum

Generation 1 1990 - 1995

Generation 2 1995 - 2000

Generation 3 2000 - Present

I prefer Generation 3 balance.

The phrase "Ruger Safari Magnum" and the word "balance" should never be used in the same sentence!