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I've heard reports that the Ruger Hawkeye Alaskan Hogue Overmoulded stocks provide extra recoil comfort on larger calibres. This community certainly has quite a few folk who have handled these rifles and can provide some helpful feedback. I am in a position without access to these rifles but I am considering using one for a larger build than 416, say a 458 AccRel or 500 AccRel. Comments on the recoil absorbing properties of this Hogue stock are solicited. Ugly is irrelevant and a fat forearm is irrelevant unless someone thinks that it hinders follow-up control. So does the Hogue stock give the 416 Ruger (or 375 Ruger, and larger wildcats) the pleasant feel of heavier 10-11 lb rifle combos? I assume that the Ruger Alaskan combos weigh about 9lb flat with scope on the light side and a couple rounds. It this is true it would become an important factor in building a 458 or 500 AccRel. Thank you for your comments. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | ||
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Tanzan- I have one on my 458 AccRel. Works very well, recoil not an issue at all. It has hold up to a few hundred rounds - so far no problems, seems strong.. Only issue - for me - is that I got the impression that the rubbercoating on the stock kind of "stick" to your clothes.. I didnt like that when I first handled the stock, but I must admit, that it have given me zero issues in the field (I used it on an ele hunt in Zim October last year and shot 3 ele bulls with it). I have two other Ruger Hawkeye Alaskan rifles - one is a 375 Ruger which shoot all ammo under 1 moa, - I changed the stock to a McMillan. The other is becomming a 500 AccRel very soon, and I have bought a Accurate Innovations stock for it. But I will keep the Hogue on the 458 AccRel... | |||
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Thank you Buffalo. Sounds like the Hogue stock is an asset for 60-90 lb. recoil. Was/is the Ruger Hawkeye action easy to open up for the 500 AccRel? I assume it will still hold 3 down in the magazine? +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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Dont buy an Alaskan, your paying the extra money for a pull apart ....... why And IMHO I dont think a Hogue is right for a 500 AccRel, It's marginal on a 458, Your testing your luck with a 500. Your going to need a recoil lug on you barrel and it needs to be bedded into the stock forend, in addition your going to have to open the barrel channel and I'm not sure the rubber on the HOgue stock likes being cut open. But if you want to go that way you can get any standard stainless magnum ruger a good 2nd hand one is the go, doesnt need to be a 375 or 416 sell the original stock and get a hogue. My 458 AccRel is built on a 338 Win Mag Hawkeye and my 500 AccRel is built on a 7mm Rem Mag. You will not need to modify the action in ANY way for the 416,458,470 AccRels, but you will need a good gunsmith to open the bolt face and action rails for a 500, its a different beast built on a Rigby case. regards S&F | |||
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Thank you. There are several useful pieces of information in there that could save money and/or enhance the project. I checked out the Hogue webstie and note that they have a full-length aluminum bedding option that extends through the forearm. That looks pretty substantial for something like a 458 AccRel. For a 500, do you think that it would be adaptable to glass bedding a slot for a foreend barrel lug? (And who did you use for doing a barrel with a foreend lug? (Those arn't often mentioned on barrelmakers' websites.) Thanks. Tanzan +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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If you use a stock which have a full-length aluminum bedding block that extends through the forearm, you will not need a barrel recoil lug. My advice is - go for an Accurate Innovations stock. I do on my 500 and will keep my barrel free floating... On my 458 AccRel I used the Hogue stock without the alu bedding block (as it came on the Ruger Alaskan) and so far zero issues with it... I originally planned to change the stock when it craked - but it keeps going.. Otherwise I agree wit S&F - it is fine to buy a second hand Ruger and use the action. I just think that the new Ruger Alaskans are so cheap that it is a lot easyer to buy a new one...  I also like the black finish on the stainless steel action on the Hawkeye 375 Alaskan rifles... | |||
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I would like the hogue full length alum bedding block in my 500 ... i've got one in the regular one... and i can most certainly feel it flex! on the recoil lug.. McGowen will turn you one in the Jeffe profile.. cz heavy +.050 at the muzzle .. with the underlug .. heck, they can even make the sight island and dovetail for cz rear sights! easy as pie to either dovetail the lug or just drill and tap and make a larger block jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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That sort of brings back the original question. A stock that flexes in recoil is probably smoothing out quite a bit of felt recoil, which would lead someone to plan on a lighter rifle rather than a heavier one. It sounds like the stock will more than offset any lightness in weight that one might design. A second consideration arises with the flex question--what is its affect on accuracy? My guess would be neglible for someone that would be happy with 3-shot MOA and does not need sub-MOA. (All my hunting has always been with rifles capable of accurate long range (300+ yards--hey, in Africa 300 yards is long range). But an over-416 calibre would not need the same level of accuracy as a 416 or 338. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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