Anyhow, the local gun range owner has expanded, and now has a fine gun room. Pretty cool. They had a Dakota 76 chambered in 416 Rigby. Too bad the price tag was over 5g's. The wood was sweet, checkering real sharp, and overall looked real sweet. I noticed the stock had a straighter grip though. Noticeable but not disturbing.

I mean, can you really justify purchasing a sweet gun like that to hunt in a swamp? I dont think so. Shit, my wife would flip the F out when I brought it home all scuffed up from walkin through the thick stuff. BTW I have come to the conclusion that I like the dark lines of English better than Black or Claro.

Well, can you justify wearing a $10,000 watch, driving a $40,000 pickup truck or spending $70,000 on a safari?

Lots of people can. That why there are $5,000 rifles, $10,000 watches, $40,000 pickup trucks, and $70,000 safaris.

George

I personally have all McMillan Stocks. But I have a friend who hates fiberglass and believes "Life is too short to hunt with an ugly gun".

I try to make it a point never agree with him on anything (gives us an excuse to break out the gin and cards to debate the subject), but the older I get the more I miss the feel and looks of fine walnut. Plus every scratch usually has a story assoicated with it.

Saludos...Frank

"Life is too short to hunt with an ugly gun"

So True - http://www.sunbeltmicrosystems.com/sldn934/slowdance.html

Roland

Why bother with "Trinkota"? Here:
Meat 'n' Potatoes
I would buy it, but alas, my jowl can't take it! I must sneak up 'des pieds' with .375 'Etoscha' and aim between eye and ear canal, or .....BIG

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Originally posted by GeorgeS:
Well, can you justify wearing a $10,000 watch, driving a $40,000 pickup truck or spending $70,000 on a safari?

Lots of people can. That why there are $5,000 rifles, $10,000 watches, $40,000 pickup trucks, and $70,000 safaris.

George

$40,000 pickups, that is a whole other story.

I have a very nicely built M70 in .280 that some folks think I'm nuts to hunt with it. The worst that can happen is the stock gets broken. Another piece of wood, a few hundred to finish & checker & I'm back up & running. It's not my only rifle so the regular abuse gets stretched out. I will probably have it refinished some day.

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Originally posted by gixxer:
Anyhow, the local gun range owner has expanded, and now has a fine gun room. Pretty cool. They had a Dakota 76 chambered in 416 Rigby. Too bad the price tag was over 5g's. The wood was sweet, checkering real sharp, and overall looked real sweet. I noticed the stock had a straighter grip though. Noticeable but not disturbing.

I mean, can you really justify purchasing a sweet gun like that to hunt in a swamp? I dont think so. Shit, my wife would flip the F out when I brought it home all scuffed up from walkin through the thick stuff. BTW I have come to the conclusion that I like the dark lines of English better than Black or Claro.

Are you a poser or a shooter? I shoot everything I own, no "safe queens." No matter the cost or the looks. And I do were one of my Rolex's hunting.

Poser, no. In all honesty, those rifles are not swamp guns. Also, because that was the first time I got to handle a weapon that was worth more than 1g. If I had one, I would shoot it. I get a kick outa the folks at the range that marvel at your expensive or big bore rifle. Take it in the swamp? No. Take it on any other hunt that does not involve wading through waist deep muck at times? Yes. But you are correct that some folks buy non collector weapons that sit in the purty gun cabinet while they sip brandy from snifters in a smoking jacket.

Your reverse snobbery and your wife's histrionics aside, if someone chooses to take their $5000 Dakota into the swamp, that's their business, not yours.

By the way, sipping brandy from a snifter while wearing a smoking jacket sounds a hell of a lot more enjoyable than swilling Budweiser while wearing a torn t-shirt and a baseball cap.

George

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Originally posted by GeorgeS:
Your reverse snobbery and your wife's histrionics aside, if someone chooses to take their $5000 Dakota into the swamp, that's their business, not yours.

By the way, sipping brandy from a snifter while wearing a smoking jacket sounds a hell of a lot more enjoyable than swilling Budweiser while wearing a torn t-shirt and a baseball cap.

George

Reverse nobbery? Wow, thats funny. no, not poking like I disagree, just never heard that before. and yes, I guess sipping brandy might be nicer than drinking bud in a can once in a while. I always thought brandy(no matter how old) had a stiffer bite than beer! Maybe one of these days I can afford that gun, it was mighty nice. BTW I prefer budweiser in a can anyday compared to busch or miller products.

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Originally posted by GeorgeS:
Your reverse snobbery and your wife's histrionics aside, if someone chooses to take their $5000 Dakota into the swamp, that's their business, not yours.

By the way, sipping brandy from a snifter while wearing a smoking jacket sounds a hell of a lot more enjoyable than swilling Budweiser while wearing a torn t-shirt and a baseball cap.

George

George you must of never been to Kentucky. I would bet 98% of the people around here that drink would rather as you put it swill budweiser while wearing a torn t-shirt and a baseball cap any day, than sip brandy from a snifter while wearing a smoking jacket or whatever.

I dont drink but I personally would rather sip a good cold RC, Coca Cola, Pepsi take your pick, while wearing a torn t-shirt any day than sip brandy wearing any kind of jacket.

Oh yeah I'm a cheapskate though. I just as soon have the Sam's Choice 2 liters for 50 cents from Wal Mark as my friend calls it.

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Originally posted by gixxer:

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Originally posted by GeorgeS:
Well, can you justify wearing a $10,000 watch, driving a $40,000 pickup truck or spending $70,000 on a safari?

Lots of people can. That why there are $5,000 rifles, $10,000 watches, $40,000 pickup trucks, and $70,000 safaris.

George

$40,000 pickups, that is a whole other story.

No it not really a whole other story. None of the above are actually needed they are all wants.
Although if I were rich to where money was no object I wouldnt mind the $40,000 truck, $5,000 rifle, or the safari but I couldnt make enough money for me to ever care about a $10,000 watch.

I personally prefer a $5,000 truck $10,000 maximum, $20 dollar watch, $1,000 dollar gun. That is just me though. It is subject to change without notice depending on how much money I might make one day or might not make.

You said it was the first time you ever held a gun worth over 1g. I know people who could take any safari they wanted and buy any gun they wanted and wouldnt spend over $1,000 for a gun. Different strokes for different folks.

Personally,I like drinkin' "swill" Bud (better in a bottle) in a torn t-shirt and dirty Cat cap with a big wad of Skoal Wintergreen Longcut or a Cope as much as I enjoy drinking a good brandy from a snifter (but prefer a McCallan scotch, no ice and just a bit of water), whereing a velevet smoking jacket and enjoying a good Cuban.

But hey, I live not too far from the Mason Dixon line. If I go north they think I'm a redneck southerner, south and they think I'm a carpetbaggin' yankee.

JPK

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Originally posted by JPK:
Personally,I like drinkin' "swill" Bud (better in a bottle) in a torn t-shirt and dirty Cat cap with a big wad of Skoal Wintergreen Longcut or a Cope as much as I enjoy drinking a good brandy from a snifter (but prefer a McCallan scotch, no ice and just a bit of water), whereing a velevet smoking jacket and enjoying a good Cuban.

But hey, I live not too far from the Mason Dixon line. If I go north they think I'm a redneck southerner, south and they think I'm a carpetbaggin' yankee.

JPK

How far are you calling not to far?

You Yankee You

People from around here Kentucky can go down to Georgia and some of them are like your from up north ain't ye ?

i probably shouldn't say so but i've got a match set of dakotas that don allen made special for me that have been dragged all over africa.

If I buy a gun it will get used.
If I want an art piece I will buy a copy of the Mona Lisa and hang up in my living room.

You know, the more and more we talk about it, the more I am starting to want it. Although I might go for a GMA if I really had the money.

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Originally posted by JPK:
Personally,I like drinkin' "swill" Bud (better in a bottle) in a torn t-shirt and dirty Cat cap with a big wad of Skoal Wintergreen Longcut or a Cope as much as I enjoy drinking a good brandy from a snifter (but prefer a McCallan scotch, no ice and just a bit of water), whereing a velevet smoking jacket and enjoying a good Cuban.

But hey, I live not too far from the Mason Dixon line. If I go north they think I'm a redneck southerner, south and they think I'm a carpetbaggin' yankee.

JPK

Ruining scotch with water. Thats alcohol abuse!!!!!

If you can afford it, buy it, love it and enjoy using it! What anybody else thinks is BS and often sour grapes. Remember the golden rule: "When it's my gold I make the rules"!

I don't care what you could might want to do with something else, but you'd better not shoot that big bore Dakota.

Not unless you want to see that nice XXX stock split from the tang back past the nose of comb.

You'd think Dakota would know something--hell, anything--about bedding. But you'd be wrong.

Jarrod, I live about 75 miles as the crow flys from the Masom Dixon Line, but on the right side of it! (South side for those in doubt!) My next dog's name will be JEB!

I own two matched early Dakotas. They are excellent. Very accurate, especially the 375H&H and perfect function. The bedding is really excellent, being full length glass bedded with aluminum pillars and cross bolts. Two on a 375H&H and I had two put on a 30-06 just to match. The inside of the stock is almost as well finished as the exterior. The stocks on my rifles are really beautiful, but I picked them myself.

And I won't own a gun I wouldn't hunt with.

FWIW,

JPK

I would prefer wearing a Phillipe Patek,drnking a Jasper Murdoch ale,eating one of my own levain breads,dry firing my new made in New Haven Winchester mod.70 wearin my fruit of the loom underwear.

Suitable attire? For me, it's budgie smugglers, a surf lifesaver's cap, and a pair of thongs. Put a cold 'Cold' in my hand, and I'm a happy little vegemite!

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Originally posted by rugeruser:
Suitable attire? For me, it's budgie smugglers, a surf lifesaver's cap, and a pair of thongs. Put a cold 'Cold' in my hand, and I'm a happy little vegemite!

I hope you are talking about the thongs you wear on your feet, not on your behind!!

Now that is a disturbing visual image!!!

Yes Dogcat, that thong image produces a shiver down my spine. What the F' kinda rifle goes with a thong?

JPK

Patek Philippe? I had a Nautilus autowinder, exceptional accuracy (for auto mvt.) with +2sec/24hr gain. It must have been regulated to 5 positions +temp. It's far superior to that big rock Seaclam, or something, and amazingly they don't want to chop your arm off to get it. My Esq buddy wears it today, I rely on Seiko quartz, since it requires no stripping/lubrication q5yr, or so and keeps of ticking. I also "traded" my Gucci shirts for Mondo di Marco. That Dakota looks like a nice enough trinket.

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Originally posted by Paolo9,5x73:
Patek Philippe? I had a Nautilus autowinder, exceptional accuracy (for auto mvt.) with +2sec/24hr gain. It must have been regulated to 5 positions +temp. It's far superior to that big rock Seaclam, or something, and amazingly they don't want to chop your arm off to get it. My Esq buddy wears it today, I rely on Seiko quartz, since it requires no stripping/lubrication q5yr, or so and keeps of ticking. I also "traded" my Gucci shirts for Mondo di Marco. That Dakota looks like a nice enough trinket.

PatekPhillippe is definitely superior to Rolex in terms of haute horologie, but the Rolex is far more rugged, and service on a Rolex is a fraction of what PP charges to service one of their watches.

George

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Originally posted by dogcat:

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Originally posted by rugeruser:
Suitable attire? For me, it's budgie smugglers, a surf lifesaver's cap, and a pair of thongs. Put a cold 'Cold' in my hand, and I'm a happy little vegemite!

I hope you are talking about the thongs you wear on your feet, not on your behind!!

Now that is a disturbing visual image!!!

Dogcat... yep... thongs for feet, not for flossing my backside!!

Jesus... the mental image even disturbs me!!!

Rugeruser,

Phew, that is good news!

JPK

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Originally posted by GeorgeS:

By the way, sipping brandy from a snifter while wearing a smoking jacket sounds a hell of a lot more enjoyable than swilling Budweiser while wearing a torn t-shirt and a baseball cap.

George

Depends, there George. Swilling budweiser while wearing my Capetown Harley Davidson T-Shirt, and my Padres (<--not some damn yankees) hat, sounds pretty good to me.

Besides, I don't even own a watch. That's why God invented Blackberries.

Jeff

Jeff,

You're too far gone to save. Budweiser sucks; it tastes like it's already been run through the Clydesdales once or twice.

If you want to drink a GOOD U.S.-made beer, try one of Samuel Adams's offerings.

The Padres? Haven't they lost EVERY World Series game they've been in, including being swept by the winningest team in baseball history, a.k.a. the 'damn Yankees'?

George

Just my two cents worth.

"If you need a beer real bad, budwieser makes a real bad beer."

Ditto's on the Sam Adams. I also like a couple German beers, Bitburger, Veltins and Fransikaner but Sam Adams doesn't hold a back seat to any of them according to my taste buds...... .....DJ

I think its getting pretty thick around here. I'm sure we all have our favorites, for me its Guinness, but hey, I'm Irish.

So the real question:

Its hot, the Bud, and only the Bud, is cold. Who wants one? After me of course.

JPK

Hides my $5 battery operated watch I bought at Wal Mart from this crowd.

I our part of the world, there are two kinds of been - Shlitz and free. I like free beer the best!!!!

I have shot several hundred rounds of .338-250s through my Dakota 76 and the stock is fine. I wore my Rolex Explorer II for 20+ years without a single thing being done to it, except replacing the bracelet which was damaged by a crewman swinging a Pulaski; it took the abuse of B.C. forest fire suppression work, Canadian Coast Guard saltwater immersion and so forth in stride. I don't wear it now and it's buried somewhere in my gunsafe, but, it's still good, I just don't need it due to being retired.

As to BEER, my family were brewers in the Black Forest area of Swabia, now Germany and they first came to Pennsylvania in the early 17thC and to B.C. in 1870. My grandfather went to Milwaukee in the late 1890s to become a master brewer and I have "beer in the blood". I wouldn't wash my sidewalks with Budweiser and tend to drink a dark potion known as "Paddywhack" made in the original building my great grandpa, his brother and my grandpa built in Nelson, B.C. circa 1899; this is wonderful beer, but, it is NOT weak.

Beer is good for you and a fundamental aspect of civilized life, just like Beethoven's music, reading Joyce and shooting fine rifles. A gentleman cultivates a discriminating palate in fine beers because of it's health-promoting qualities and one should never confuse Budweiser with real BEER!

Kutenay,

Its hot, the Bud, and only the Bud, is cold...and you PASS?

It ain't Guinness, but it sure beats nothin'! Even if you have to pay for it.

Zim PH's view on Bud,..."Its like shagging in a conoe...Both are f'in near water"

JPK

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Originally posted by JPK:
Kutenay,

Its hot, the Bud, and only the Bud, is cold...and you PASS?

It ain't Guinness, but it sure beats nothin'! Even if you have to pay for it.

Zim PH's view on Bud,..."Its like shagging in a conoe...Both are f'in near water"

JPK

Hey, Bud sure beats OB. Go to Korea and try that stuff.drinking OB is like shooting a 7lb 460Weatherby. a flavor that will knock you on your ass and smack the taste out of yer mouth all at the same time!!

Had to throw the gun thing in there beings that we are talkin about beer in a gun forum!!