I am thinking of a 375. Found a very nice condition interarms and looked at a cz. The cz is about 300.00 more What is your opinion. Thanks

Either will work just fine. I am partial to the CZ's. I had an Interarms 375 that had ejection problems. The safety on the Interarms just blocks the trigger, IIRC.

Welcome to AR, BTW!

Since $300 is significant savings, I would go with the Yugo. A used Parker-Hale 'African' is also worth locating.
The CZ is a Magnum size action that requires .416R, or larger boomer.

I've never had an ejection problem with a MKX. Btu, I've only had 30+ other than trouble trying to eject a loaded 375H&H round. Took about 5 minutes work on the ejector to fix that.

I think the CZ makes a nice rifle but way to big in my opinion for a 375.

I have never had trouble with a MKX safety either as long as it is adjusted correctly. But best safety I have found is an empty chamber.

The size of the CZ550 magnum action is a consideration I didn't think of. Four of mine are the smaller actions...the 404 is on the mag action. They really are kinda beefy for the .375 H&H.

The price on the interarms is less than 600.00 and conditionis 98% is this in line. Thanks

Which model? The American Mk X called the Alaskan or the English Whitworth? $600 for a clean Whitworth is a great deal in today's market but for an Alaskan its about average.

Tigertate,

What are the physical differences between the Alaskan and Safari Grade Mark Xs. I've been looking for a Mark X or good Whitworth in .458 Win Mag myself.

It is a barreled action is a custom stock ??

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Originally posted by GAHUNTER:
Tigertate,

What are the physical differences between the Alaskan and Safari Grade Mark Xs. I've been looking for a Mark X or good Whitworth in .458 Win Mag myself.

The "Alaskan" came in 375 and 458 like the Whitworth but had an American style adjustable rear sight on the barrel and front ramp. The stock was a monte carlo stock, white line spacers, black recoil pad and fore end swivel stud.

The Whitworth Express rifle is classic a British style with 3 folding leaves, barrel band swivel and egg-shaped cheekpiece butt stock set more for the irons than a scope. It had a red recoil pad.

I'm not familiar with a specific model called the Safari Grade but doesn't mean much. There may be one.

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Originally posted by tiggertate:
The "Alaskan" came in 375 and 458 like the Whitworth but had an American style adjustable rear sight on the barrel and front ramp. The stock was a monte carlo stock, white line spacers, black recoil pad and fore end swivel stud.

Do you find the weight and balance of the Alaskan in .375 to be decent compared to the Whitworth? I've heard a lot of good things about the .375 Whitworth, but am curious about the handiness of the Alaskan (issues about white-line spacers and Monte Carlo stocks aside).

The Alaskan normally looked like this. I've also see it in a fiberglass stock.


The Whitworth Safari Express looked like this.


I've also seen some later MKX that had the english style stock with the cross pin release on the floorplate and the front swivel on the stock.

For a Whitworth $600 is a very good deal. For the alaskan or even a new Daly in 458 or 375 it is average as tiggertate stated.

The size and weight are basically the same.

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Originally posted by Charles_Helm:

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Originally posted by tiggertate:
The "Alaskan" came in 375 and 458 like the Whitworth but had an American style adjustable rear sight on the barrel and front ramp. The stock was a monte carlo stock, white line spacers, black recoil pad and fore end swivel stud.

Do you find the weight and balance of the Alaskan in .375 to be decent compared to the Whitworth? I've heard a lot of good things about the .375 Whitworth, but am curious about the handiness of the Alaskan (issues about white-line spacers and Monte Carlo stocks aside).

I never owned an Alaskan, just the standard calibers. I've shot several Whitworths and owned one for a time. I like the stock configuration better than a monte carlo but that's just my tastes. Both came with 24" barrels so I bet they balanced very similarly.

I have bought 375 barreled actions from Brownell's in the early 90s that had the Whitworth oval on the front receiver ring but no proof marks. I think they were left over Yugo inventory sold here when Whitworth quit the market. They would have been Yugo barrels or American though as Whitworth used barrels of English manufacture according to some of the Brits here on the site.

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Originally posted by tiggertate:
I never owned an Alaskan, just the standard calibers. I've shot several Whitworths and owned one for a time. I like the stock configuration better than a monte carlo but that's just my tastes. Both came with 24" barrels so I bet they balanced very similarly.

I have bought 375 barreled actions from Brownell's in the early 90s that had the Whitworth oval on the front receiver ring but no proof marks. I think they were left over Yugo inventory sold here when Whitworth quit the market. They would have been Yugo barrels or American though as Whitworth used barrels of English manufacture according to some of the Brits here on the site.

Thanks. I am trying to talk myself into or out of an inexpensive .375 (if there is such a creature) and I know the Whitworths seem to be going up, so was thinking about the Alaskan.

It's fundemantally the same rifle so I can't see how you can go wrong. You might end up wanting to tweak it (they weren't as well finished) by smoothing the action but all the hard parts are pretty much the same. But then, if you go tweaking too much, the "inexpensive" part goes out the window.

I think CDNN has the last Charles Daly 375/458 rifles for sale for 569.00 new but you'll need to screw on some sights if you want them. Sarco has a bunch of screw-on 3 leaf express sights that I think are old Whitworth stock for 49.95 and you can get a decent ramp front from a lot of places.

Their description:

Oil finished Turk walnut with rosewood grip cap (not tip), Monte Carlo with cheek piece, cross bolt (no white spacers, thank goodness), high polish 24" hammer forged barrel, add $50 for double trigger 375 only."

What arte your feelings on the Charles Daly rifles as I have never seen one.Thanks Brad

They are about the same as a late model MKX. Little over polish around the screw holes at times. I don't like the cross pin. If you can find one they will be the same price as an Alaskan and don't have open sights.

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Originally posted by tiggertate:
It's fundemantally the same rifle so I can't see how you can go wrong. You might end up wanting to tweak it (they weren't as well finished) by smoothing the action but all the hard parts are pretty much the same. But then, if you go tweaking too much, the "inexpensive" part goes out the window.

I think CDNN has the last Charles Daly 375/458 rifles for sale for 569.00 new but you'll need to screw on some sights if you want them. Sarco has a bunch of screw-on 3 leaf express sights that I think are old Whitworth stock for 49.95 and you can get a decent ramp front from a lot of places.

Yes, I think I will have more money in "tweaking" my Whitworth .458 than I paid for it -- the Alaskan might just be more of the same.

I think for the money difference I would rather have an Alaskan with sights and floorplate release in the triggerguard (not cross bolt). They both can use a new safety and a restocking, new recoil pad, etc.

Thanks for the help.

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Originally posted by boatammo:
I am thinking of a 375. Found a very nice condition interarms and looked at a cz. The cz is about 300.00 more What is your opinion. Thanks

boatammo,

I look at it this way:

The 375H&H CZ is about as heavy as they come (short of the Ruger RSM) and the FN/Mark10/CD/798 is about as light as they come (short of converting a mkII to 375H&H w/ a short featherweight contour).

Remington has put in writing (if that has value) that the 798 will be up to spec and shipped to suppliers by mid-summer. In the meantime, if you can find a fair deal on a Whitworth 375H&H that is in great shape (I doubt it as the current prices I've seen on these of late would have been considered outrageous less than a year ago) BUY IT!!!! If not, wait for the 798 and give it a look see. You may find that the 798 will have better QC than CD had and the Remington laminate stocks of late have proven very functional for use in the field. If anything it would be a good platform to work with.

Good Luck!!

cz holds what, 2 more than the markX ??
jeffe

Yep, my 602 held 5 cartridges, quite an accomplishment for repetier without swine belly, but is $150/rd. really worth it

Paolo,
heh.. a brand new 550 is 775 from gunbroker or auction arms, today. Whitworth's seem to be going for 600-800....

and (grin) if you buy a blackburn drop box (about 400) you get an (2?) additional rounds, plus have to make a custom stock to acccomodate (okay, techincally you don't HAVE to) the mag, call that 1500...

or $950/round to get the next two rounds in a whitworth

jeffe

Metal drop box is $400? Is it made out of tantalum alloy? Look, that dude said he could get that ZCZ Yugo for $300 less. Isn't $800 for that polished up thing with Whitworth 'Castle' monogram on the barrel?

Thanks for all the replys. I bought the markX for 500.00. It has a very nice high stock on it.

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Originally posted by boatammo:
Thanks for all the replys. I bought the markX for 500.00. It has a very nice high stock on it.

Sounds good -- post some pictures when you get a chance. And congratulations.

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Originally posted by Paolo9,5x73:
Metal drop box is $400? Is it made out of tantalum alloy? Look, that dude said he could get that ZCZ Yugo for $300 less. Isn't $800 for that polished up thing with Whitworth 'Castle' monogram on the barrel?

Paola,
400 is less than DEALER price on a 4th round drop box..
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=176701


500 vs 750.. and he got a nice piece of wood.. outstanding

jeffe

My apologies, I thought it was just a box n follower. One would have to parkerize or polish/blue that unit and final fitting is also necessary. A lot of work for that one extra cartridge. I guess the choice would be used Ruger "Big Boy" Magnum entire rifle or this thing fitted into unfinished rifle?

Paolo,
it would also need a new stock for the extra round, as it is about what, 3/8 deeper from the trigger to the bottom of the mag box... the ole perch/swine belly.

If you "require" a 4 round rifle, it's almost always cheaper to buy

jeffe

boatammo,Congradulations on your MKX purchase.Fair price on a nice rifle.I've had several + have been pleased with performance.Besides they're just an aethestically pleasing rifle.