Okay, here's what I think Ruger ought to do. Drop the .375 H&H from the Ruger Safari Magnum line and add the .450 Rigby. After all, the RSM .375 H&H is to heavy anyway and they now have the .375 Ruger Hawkeye right?

Think about it. For under two grand each a guy could buy a RSM with good sights, CRF, and a quarter rib in both .416 and .450 Rigby. Hell, I'd buy a pair!

Dave

I think they should keep the 375 H&H and add the 450 Rigby; however, they will probably still sell many more in the 375 H&H. What if they made the magnum with a lighter barrel contour for the 375 and add the 9.3x62?
Lou

Or bring back the express model in 375 Ruger and 9.3x62.

ruger had made the rsm in 270 and 300 ... talk about boat anchors.

they NEED to make it in 500 AR!!

Ruger needs a 'flagship' calibre in their 'flagship' bigbore rifle. Offering it in ho-hum chamberings is ... ho-hum. Either a modern 50cal chambering or a 500Jeffery/505Gibbs is required. But 50cal hysteria being what it is ... 470Mbogo would seem appropriate.
Cheers...
Con

For us lefties they need to offer the RSM in a left handed model.

Dave just buy a 458 Lott RSM, and ream it and open the bolt to your "beloved" 450 Rigby. Or just rebore a 416 RSM.

They have a winner building the RSM in the Lott the are not going to build two 458 cal rilfes that are only 100-150fps apart.


Doc, the 9.3x62 can go on a regular Model 77, same as the '06. No need for the bigger RSM rifle.

I agree with Con and jeffe, a .50 RSM would be great.

Keith

You know... a 500 AR, in an RSM, would be wickedly cool, as you could just barely but might could get er done, feed milsurps from the mag!

I think Ruger should add the .505 Gibbs to the RSM lineup along with the .338 Lapua.

338 lapua would weigh in at 14#... and it's BARELY big enough for a gibbs... BARELY barely barely

I agree with Jeff. The .505 Gibbs is a really big cartridge and needs a really big action like one from Granite Mountain. I think the new PH action from MRC will be perfect for the Gibbs if MRC ever gets it going. Something based on the Rigby case, either a .450 or a .500 A-Square would work much better in the RSM. It would be cool if they chambered the RSM in .416 Rigby, .450 Rigby, and .500 A-Square. Throw out the Lott and .375 H&H. The RSM is a long magnum action. It ought to be chambered in cartridges that need a long magnum action.

RUGER, if your reading, how about a Stainless Steel No. 1 in .470 Nitro & .500 Nitro thats the same price as your normal No. 1's. Now that HORNADY is bringing out the ammo.

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Originally posted by David Culpepper:
For us lefties they need to offer the RSM in a left handed model.

I would LOVE to see this happen.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
You know... a 500 AR, in an RSM, would be wickedly cool, as you could just barely but might could get er done, feed milsurps from the mag!

That would be too sweet!

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Originally posted by Chris O:
RUGER, if your reading, how about a Stainless Steel No. 1 in .470 Nitro & .500 Nitro thats the same price as your normal No. 1's. Now that HORNADY is bringing out the ammo.

I contacted them with this exact request, except I didn't specify ss/lam but would love to have both cals in both configurations. I got no reply....at least not yet and it's been about 3 months.

I would like to see the .505 Gibbs as well. The #1 in .450 x 3.25 NE. There were rumours about that one but haven't been able to get it confirmed. I was going to have one built but if they are going to do it I will wait on it. I already have a SS/ Laminate .416 Rigby that I enjoy quite a bit. The next bib bore #1 need to be a blue/ walnut with nice wood. reflex264

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Originally posted by Dave Bush:
Okay, here's what I think Ruger ought to do. Drop the .375 H&H from the Ruger Safari Magnum line and add the .450 Rigby. After all, the RSM .375 H&H is to heavy anyway and they now have the .375 Ruger Hawkeye right?

Think about it. For under two grand each a guy could buy a RSM with good sights, CRF, and a quarter rib in both .416 and .450 Rigby. Hell, I'd buy a pair!

Dave

I wish CZ chambered 550 'Medium' in .375 Ruger. I want something inexpensive that works.
Mannlicher stock would be great and a bit extra weight that CZ550 gives would not hurt either.

At one time Ruger made a Safari rifle on the std length action in .270 and 30-06 and it had the quarter rib, barrel band swivel and front sight, they were really nice rifles but didn't sell very well I suspect so they dropped them and now they bring too much collector money to own..

I would sugget the bring this same rifle out in a 9.3x62 and the 375 Ruger, 338 Ruger, 300 Ruger and the upcoming .416 Ruger. They have a gold mine in this new case and if they take advantage of it in a near custom rifle then they will sell like hot cakes.. The problem is the bean counters are over educated idiots and totally out of touch with the hunting public and seldom make a good decision...Of course they don't realize this, thats why these gun companies keep going broke and go into chapter 11 with a fair amount of regularity.

Ray,
I actually think Ruger is missing the boat with its 375Ruger. We've just been told in Australia that the RemSPS with sights in 375H&H will now be a standard chambering. Savage has their stainless/synthetic in 375H&H as well. Both under-cut the price of a Ruger African/Alaskan substantially.

Placing the 375Ruger in the RSM won't help, but placing it in the regular Hawkeye will sell a truck-load and fast.

The RSM here sits at that price point where I'd rather just have a basic custom rifle built. I really think it needs to go to a 50cal to make it a stand-out in the market. Perhaps a combination of 404Jeffery, 416Rigby, 500Jeffery would breathe life into it as it then sells the African dream more convincingly. And whilst Ruger is re-jigging itself ... No1's in old English chamberings that further sell the image and dream of days gone by. A 400/350NE, 470Nitro, 500Nitro to join the 450/400.

Just a thought.
Cheers...
Con

Another wish to add to the Ruger list:

How about a scaled up Ruger No.1 big enough to handle the 700 Nitro Express as well as the only slightly larger 12 Guage from Hell?

The Ruger Expresses were on the standard length action and have a thin barrel profile. I don't know what my 30-06 weighs, but it is light and handy, no more than my stainless/lam RM77. They pop up on gunbroker, etc occasionally in the $1000-1300 range.

I also have a 375RSM. Five rounds+30mm zeiss 1.5-6 = 12 pounds!

Bob

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Originally posted by Dave Bush:
Okay, here's what I think Ruger ought to do. Drop the .375 H&H from the Ruger Safari Magnum line and add the .450 Rigby. After all, the RSM .375 H&H is to heavy anyway and they now have the .375 Ruger Hawkeye right?

Think about it. For under two grand each a guy could buy a RSM with good sights, CRF, and a quarter rib in both .416 and .450 Rigby. Hell, I'd buy a pair!

Dave

550 (both) 500AR & 470 Mbogo!!!

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Originally posted by Dave Bush:
Okay, here's what I think Ruger ought to do. Drop the .375 H&H from the Ruger Safari Magnum line and add the .450 Rigby. After all, the RSM .375 H&H is to heavy anyway and they now have the .375 Ruger Hawkeye right?

Think about it. For under two grand each a guy could buy a RSM with good sights, CRF, and a quarter rib in both .416 and .450 Rigby. Hell, I'd buy a pair!

Dave

They ought to offer:

375 H&H
416 Rigby
458 Lott
450 Rigby
470 Mbogo (they could rename it something gay like 470 Boddington if that would increase sales...)
500 A-Square

I think some are missing my point..The RSM was produced in both std. and mag actions...The big bores in one at 10 lbs. give or take, and the 270 and 06 in the other, which was a very light rifle with all the same bells and whistle...

The lighter of the two would be the finest of the finest in a 9.3x62, 375 Ruger or 416 Ruger etc...It would weigh about 7.5 to 8 lbs without scope as I recall.

As to the Remington, I have seen one and its nothing I want. The Mauser type action is less than the good old FN its cloned after according to several top gunsmiths that I have talked to. At any rate the one I handled didn't pass my inspection, just my opine on it.

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Originally posted by Paolo9,5x73:


I wish CZ chambered 550 'Medium' in .375 Ruger. I want something inexpensive that works.
Mannlicher stock would be great and a bit extra weight that CZ550 gives would not hurt either.

A mannlicher , laminated stock .. .. The Medium is an ideal action ...

It would be nice to have a 500 in the RSM ...and a 460 Whby And a #1 in 450 3 1/4" stainless L:Laminate.....With express sights ,out of the box ..

I do like Ray,s idea of a line of rifles on the standard Ruger Express... But the African and Alaskan are very good execpt fot the Alaskan,s factory stock ....
While we I am wishing , how about bringing the 480 back out and just keep making them .... some reliability from them would be nice .... I know it,s a Medium bore but I,ve handeled the 338 RCM and it is a rifle I could get very used to having with me all the time ...

A year or so ago, CDNN was selling RSMs chambered in 270 Win for about $600. I thought about buying one and having it rebored to 9.3X62 but never got around to it. I just added to the long list of things I should have done but didn't do.

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Originally posted by Iron Buck:

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Originally posted by David Culpepper:
For us lefties they need to offer the RSM in a left handed model.

I would LOVE to see this happen.

So would I.

Since Ruger is going to market reasonable priced 470 nitro ammo, they had a custom gunsmith I know build them a Ruger #1 in that caliber to work up/test the new ammo. Makes you wonder why they could not build it themselves?? Too much trouble to build just one???Perhaps when they get to shoot it they will think about a special run of them. Who knows what they are thinking at the top of the corporation.

That RSM gets HEAVY after about three days on the shoulder.