Anyone have/shoot one of these? If so, can you tell me what type of action the gun is, did you have it made, etc.

Pics as always, are appreciated.

short answer - the cz in 500 jeff is the shortest way to get there.
I've built 3 - on enfields. Pain to get feeding right, though a REAL gunsmith can get it perfect.

If building one, and on a mauser 98 (pure) go single stack.

if you want a custom one, call empire rifles.

I have a .500 Jeffery that was made by Duane Wiebe. It is a take down made on a 1909 Argentine action. If I recall correctly it has a Krieger barrel. Feeds and functions flawlessly. I find the recoil to be very manageable.

If you do a search on the forum you might find some pictures. He has done two take down .500 Jeffery's that I am aware of. I think someone else on AR has the other one.

I have one built on a LH weatherby--Tip Burns made it feed out of the center and I have an extended box that weatherby makes. It feeds good and shoots good--its just too light. It needs to weigh 11 pounds. It is right at 9 and is very brisk!!!!!!

I have a cousin to Mike Jines' rifle; it is a Wiebe rifle built on a 1909 Argie, but it's not a take down.

I have a CZ 500 Jeffery.

PSmith,

We need to see more pics of this beauty.

Warrior

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Originally posted by 505ED:
I have one built on a LH weatherby--Tip Burns made it feed out of the center and I have an extended box that weatherby makes. It feeds good and shoots good--its just too light. It needs to weigh 11 pounds. It is right at 9 and is very brisk!!!!!!

I also have one built on exactly the same action and a custom made extended magazine. Mine was made by Sabi Rifles in Nelspruit RSA and weighs 5 kgs unloaded..... mine also has a mercury tube recoil arrestor in the stock and shoots like a dream.

Here are some photos of the Wiebe take down. The rail scope has been replaced with a S&B in regular claw mounts.

I have a Jack Haugh .500 Jeff built on a single squarebridge Mauser that I bought from Vagrouser on the AR Classifieds. Haven't gotten around to shooting it yet... picked up some of the new CorBon .500 Jeffery loads so I don't have any excuses other than to get out and "do it"!

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can you tell me what type of action the gun is

While I don't personally own one myself, a departed friend of mine had two. One was built by Augustus Schuler himself, the action it was on escapes me though. His other 500 Jeffery was built on a Remington 30 Express action (civilian 1917 Enfield action).

I personally found the recoil to be pretty significant but I was 16 at the time and the largest gun I had shot was a 30-06. Results would probably be different for me now.

I have one CZ built for me. Recoil is still pretty significant but manageable off hand and kneeling (my 7 3/8 lb 375 H&H feels like a 30-06 in comparison).

Here's a pic of my buddy holding it ...

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Originally posted by Sevens:

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can you tell me what type of action the gun is

While I don't personally own one myself, a departed friend of mine had two. One was built by Augustus Schuler himself, the action it was on escapes me though. His other 500 Jeffery was built on a Remington 30 Express action (civilian 1917 Enfield action).

I personally found the recoil to be pretty significant but I was 16 at the time and the largest gun I had shot was a 30-06. Results would probably be different for me now.

If there were any way to get photos of this rifle I would really appreciate a look.
Frank

A Jack Haugh 500 is akin to dieing and going to Heaven! That guy is the ultimate custom gun builder IMO.

I have built several 500 Jefferys and 505 Gibbs rifles, one 500 J on a 98 action and the rest on the Rem or Win Enfields or the big Mausers..I much prefer the big Rem or Win commercial Enfields for these big bores..They are the Rem 30-S, 30, and 720.

I am presently building myself a 404 Jefferys on a comm. Rem Enfield, mod. 30-S. I agonized on building a big 500 but the truth is I don't like the recoil of the big 50s, they tend to make my nights sleepless, my body rejective, and my brow sweat! and the killing results as far as I can tell add little by my observation. You hit them, they run 50 to 75 yards and fall over dead. In a charge the big 50s may be of some benifit, but a charge is "usually" stopped cold with a brain shot or spine shot, not a shoulder shot..Some think a big 50 will turn a charge and indeed it might but I would not stake my life on it..

Just some personal observation for what its worth and certainly argueable.

I have a custom .500 Jeffery built on a CZ Action by Ed Woslum of Evolution USA of Idaho.It was the cover Article for the Precision Shooting Magazine June edition 2009 and he has used it for their adverts ever since.It breaks in at 11 LB's and is a take down version(I find it better when wicked antigun bagage handlers at Airports dont know what is in your duffel bag).It feeds flawlessly even with 570 grain Barnes Banded Solid's, which are very difficult to feed flawlessly(my favourite elephant bullet in .416Rigby and .500Jeffery).Its muzzle break keeps the muzzle down for quick followup shots.Its recoil is very manageable at 11 LB's.For me, I do a quite a bit of Elephant control on "Problem Elephants" in a part of Africa where there is no PH Back up.The stock is laminate which I will strongly advise(Obeche Walnut laminates) and I have been caught in heavy downpoors with it.It shoots handloads of 570 grain Bullet BBS and Woodleigh (Barnes X,gave pressure problems at 2285fps with 101 grains) H4895 102.5 grains gives 2295 fps BBS and 2287 fps Woodleigh soft nose 570 grains respectively and shoots MOA with a Swarovski 1 x 4 scope at 100yds, even though I hunt with open sights.Its an excellent firearm for Dangerous Game.Feel free to call Ed at Evo.This is one "HELL" of a .500 Jeffery that has never let me down both at the range and on Safari after an Animal that can put you in "shish kabob" status in a jiffy.Those fancy plain woodwork rifles above,?I would like to see them after that rifle has been in a daily rainstrm in real Africa day after day....?.Look fancy, but definately not practical.Check Evolution out.You wont be dissapointed.I certainly wasnt and I am getting a 2nd one soon this time with a leather covered limbsaver recoil pad.Get a few NECG foward sight covers , the muzzle blast is terrific and gives a loud report so ear protection ...a must.
Babaode

Due to the fear of daily rainstorms and the effect of water on oil finnished wood the 500's shown were removed for safe dry storage !

Hi Ray, great seeing you post.
Thanks for the above photos, there is nothing like seeing an example of great skill in action.
Frank

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Those fancy plain woodwork rifles above,?I would like to see them after that rifle has been in a daily rainstrm in real Africa day after day....?.

No offense but I will trade you an Evolution rifle for every Duane Wiebe big bore you come up with! Straight up and I won't ask for any additional money!

I'd love to see some details and pictures on how to make a M98 converted to singlestack.
I sure would have loved to build myself a 500 Jeff some day.

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Originally posted by Frank Martinez:
If there were any way to get photos of this rifle I would really appreciate a look.
Frank

Frank, unfortunately the owner passed away a few years back and what happened to the rifles I do not know. Wish I did, would love to get his 500 Jeffery on the 30-S action for sentimental value.

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Originally posted by Sevens:

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Originally posted by Frank Martinez:
If there were any way to get photos of this rifle I would really appreciate a look.
Frank

Frank, unfortunately the owner passed away a few years back and what happened to the rifles I do not know. Wish I did, would love to get his 500 Jeffery on the 30-S action for sentimental value.

Thank you for letting me know. It is always great to see an original and I believe the 30S would have been great as well. I have a 30S action which I hope to use as a basis for a really big-bore. For right now I am happy to be able to shoot any big rifle.
Frank

It's been a very lively discussion on the .500 Jeffery a great round by any standards for stopping Dangerous Game.As I write this,I am contemplating how to go about a notorious crop raider that has a sweet worn out molar for Plantains.It will go down in the next 2 or 3 months, you might wonder why?, this Patchderm is extraordinarily smart, and seems to dissapear each time I show up with the EVO .500 Jeffery.Its been videoed and photographed 2 ce, but I will have to sneak into this rain forest unannounced and keeping mum to catch it.Even the wind talk's to this monster.We will talk no more about it.It's tusks dig into the soil when it moves,one thing we writers and fans of August Schuler will agree on , is that the .500 Jeffery is the Weapon for Elephants of this size....Evo, Weibe etc , all make excellent weapons, its a positive development of our passion that we have a choice...will keep you all INFORMED after the job is done.
BABAODE

May the force be with you!

I can't wait to see the tusks on that old boy!

Ruger RSM conversion 375 H&H to 500 Jeffery (Many Thanks to Jim Dubell) Has 3 rounds down.

Brad

Not my rifle but this was built some time ago by a friend of mine - Joel Dorleac. Links to another forum.

Good hunting!

Here are some additional photo's I promised Frank.

Thank you very much for the added photos. I can see that it is a tight fit in the box for the fatties.
the work looks very precise and since everyone always mentions the feeding issues It is great to see that yours works so well.
Frank

My favorite 505 story is a certain gun scribe inferred to me that you pack a DG rifle more than you shoot it so weight makes little difference, now that made since, NOT, so I built myself a 7 lb. 505 Gibbs Imp. mathamatically filed the sigts and bore sighted it..Off to the range..The first shot off the bench cut my thick plastic sun glasses in half between my eyes as the scope jumped the bases on the QD rings. The second shot through blood filled eyes but with iron sights was dead center at 50, I'm good to go, home that is..

I packed it up, put it in the Gun List (now gun digest)..A Doc from Miami calls me and I told him nothing on earth kicked like this gun so I was selling it..He offered me a 404 Jefferys for it, and I said yes, he said don't you want to know about the Jefferys and I said not really lets just trade, He also told me he shot all manor of big bores and recoil was not a problem under any conditions..We traded and the Jefferys was a wonderful gun..

A month later he called and informed me he got a detached retina the first shot, probably because he had eye surgery sometime back..I told him I still had his Jefferys and we could trade back if he paid the ship and ins. to wit he replied no I said recoil would not bother me so the trade is good, you warned me...nice guy and made me real happy.

I still see that gun for sale from time to time. It has changed hands many times.

If I were an elephant hunter by trade I would probably opt for a 11 or 12 lb. 50 caliber, but in reality I would probably end up using a 416 Rem. 404, or perhaps a 458 Lott loaded down to 2200 FPS, don't know.

Ray:

I have to jump back into this one. You sure are correct about recoil with the 500/505. My fear of too much recoil cost me a nice Elk last season when I flinched at the last second on that big monster with my 500 RSM. If I had been shooting a 450/400 or 458Lott/416Rigby I would have had a full freezer this past winter. I LOVE recoil but agree once you get above 458 you really needs some weight to make the experience enjoyable and one you want to repeat. I'm planning on adding at least 1.5lbs to my rifle once I can into Jim Dubell's schedule.

Brad

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but in reality I would probably end up using a 416 Rem. 404, or perhaps a 458 Lott loaded down to 2200 FPS, don't know.

Alot of wisdom and experience in that statement... all four of my elephant have been taken with the .416/.404 class of cartridges so I resemble the remark!

I have a modern Heym bolt in 500 Jeff.....it shoots and functions flawlessly.

Gary
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Originally posted by Brad aka Pill Shooter:
Ray:

I have to jump back into this one. You sure are correct about recoil with the 500/505. My fear of too much recoil cost me a nice Elk last season when I flinched at the last second on that big monster with my 500 RSM. If I had been shooting a 450/400 or 458Lott/416Rigby I would have had a full freezer this past winter. I LOVE recoil but agree once you get above 458 you really needs some weight to make the experience enjoyable and one you want to repeat. I'm planning on adding at least 1.5lbs to my rifle once I can into Jim Dubell's schedule.

Brad

Amen. My CZ in 500 Jeffery weighs in at 11.25 lbs with scope and I wouldn't want it any lighter. I had Harlan put in two mercury recoil reducers and the balance came out perfect.

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Originally posted by MJines:
I have a .500 Jeffery that was made by Duane Wiebe. It is a take down made on a 1909 Argentine action. If I recall correctly it has a Krieger barrel. Feeds and functions flawlessly. I find the recoil to be very manageable.

If you do a search on the forum you might find some pictures. He has done two take down .500 Jeffery's that I am aware of. I think someone else on AR has the other one.

I have one of the Wiebe takedowns as well. I have the one he built for himself and I believe that he took a buffalo with it. I need to get it back to him it is not feeding so well these days for some reason. I think I remember a thread that had pictures of three wiebe 500 takedowns but I could be mistaken.