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Hi, anyone aware of any 50 caliber sabot "bullets" for handloaders? I was thinking a .375 or .308 caliber round could be a lot of fun in my 500 Jeff for elk, deer and other "varmints"  Chuck Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | ||
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There have been plenty of plastic sabots in the past for .510-cal reduced to .308-cal. Current 50BMG ammo is loaded with .308-caliber tungsten penetrators in plastic sabots. Winchester was announced as the contract winner for that load in USA. Must be OK for accuracy. I have not tried it yet ... but shall ... i am thinking 150-grain .308 bullets in my 1:10" twist 50-cals. Another good reason for that twist. | |||
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This interests me. I saw the news about the Winchester contract. Are the .510" to .308" sabots commercially available? A .308" TTSX at 4,000 fps just might be very effective!  Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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I'm thinking it would be one hell of a mule deer or elk round out of my 500 Jeffery ... Chuck Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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How do you think these would do at about 3300 fps out of my 500 Jeffery on deer and elk? http://www.midwayusa.com/viewp...productnumber=462267 Chuck Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Not the right caliber sabot, those are for muzzleloaders that shoot .495-caliber lead balls. Somebody makes a sabot for .510/.308, somewhere over the rainbow ... | |||
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What about some aluminum sabots for .510 to .308?-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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That would be sweet. A .308 caliber 200g Nosler Partition at 3300 fps would generate 32 ft lbs of recoil at 13 fps recoil velocity vs my 570g TSX load at 2300 fps generating 80 ft lbs of recoil at 20.6 fps recoil velocity. Sighted in at 300 yards it would be 3" high at 100... Would work for me ... Chuck Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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I'm not an expert on Sabots but given the fact that the drag force is the reason for separation, it would seem like a simple aluminum carrier that would hold a .375 300 gr bullet and is .510 should work just fine. Slotting the sabot would be possible, but adds alot of complexity. Perhaps RIP has some insight.-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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I'm with you 100%, Chuck! Rob, would an aluminum sabot take the rifling and spin as a bullet should spin? The right kind of plastic will do that, as we all know. Also, unlike you, I don't have a lathe - and wouldn't know how to use one if I did! From the photo I have seen, the Winchester sabots used in the .50 BMG - .30 Caliber tungsten penetrator rounds appear to be plastic.  From the red sabots, I think every fifth round is a tracer. I wonder if Winchester would sell these to us (if they make them), or tell us who their subcontractor is, so that we might buy some of them? I may contact them to find out, and if I can get some, do some experiments with my .500 A-Square.  Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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I could make plastic or Aluminum sabots just like those with no problems. Oh yes, aluminum bullets take the rifling and spin as well as a copper or lead bullet. Looks like it's just a clear plastic with no cuts. that's exactly the sabot concept I was thinking of. I'll write a pgm and make a few to see what looks best. Your welcome to some for your experiments.-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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Rob, that is a generous offer, and if you do decide to do it, I will definitely take some. I'm not sure whether I could do any better than a .30-.378 Wby., but I'd love to try! Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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The .50 cal rounds pictured above are SLAP (Saboted Light Armor Penetrator) rounds, but I'm sure you guys already knew that. I've read that SLAP's are not particularly accurate, as machine guns are meant to shoot patterns not groups. Am I wrong in assuming sabot rounds are not as accurate as regular rifle rounds? Additionally:
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Military.50 Mg rounds are designed to disperse at 600 yrds and beyond. They are not very concentric by design. The SLAP bullets may not have been as accurate as some would like, but then I doubt they tried to match the barrel twist to the bullet and at 4000fps things are always a compromise. I've fired aluminum sabots before and they seemed to work just fine. -Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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Maybe we can talk North Fork into putting some of their new 350g .375 caliber soft points in .510 caliber sabots. I think they'd be excellent long range medicine at 3000 plus fps Chuck Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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