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Anyone shoot a 400 H&H?

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15 January 2024, 01:12
dogcat
Anyone shoot a 400 H&H?
Tell me about your 400 H&H!
22 January 2024, 15:26
Zephyr
Been shooting and reloading my 400H&H since 2011 Pushes a .411 dia projectile to the same velocities as a 416 Rem or Rigby... Pressures fall between the two... Like all reloading components these days times can be tough ..Bullets you can find, Qualcart has been the source for proper stamped brass but they can easily be made for 375H&H brass... like the 300H&H it feeds like a dream
22 January 2024, 22:41
Scott King
I've got one that Kevin Weaver built on a LH action. It shoots the CEB in a clover leaf with Varget.
I also have North Fork, Hammer and Hornady bullets that group well. I'd use nothing but Barnes TSX, but there's still none available.
I have made brass fron 375 stuff and was able to buy some properly head stamped Roberson brass before they quit.
23 January 2024, 00:16
bluefish
Pics Scott please
23 January 2024, 00:36
Austin Hunter
Held one at H&H London 2 weeks ago. They said they sold very few. 416s were more popular.


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23 January 2024, 04:01
Scott King
quote:
Originally posted by bluefish:
Pics Scott please


I know, sorry, I'll try to get it going in the next couple days.
23 January 2024, 18:29
ozark hunter
There is one on Reto Buehler's blog.

https://www.buehlercsa.com/
23 January 2024, 22:50
Atkinson
It just never had much appeal to me not anything to offer, and apparently that was the general opinion of the masses. Seems to me it was fitting to those who wanted something that nobody else had. It was a decent enough caliber, we had the .416 Rem and Rigby. My experience with one 400 was filing in a set of iron sights on one with worked up loads. BOOM


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

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19 February 2024, 04:27
chuck375
Instead of creating the 400 H&H and 465 H&H, in my opinion, they should have legitimized the 404-375 H&H wildcat and the 470 Capstick putting their H&H moniker on them


Regards,

Chuck



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19 February 2024, 04:36
bluefish
And if they shortened the neck a tad they could have made it fit an unmodified Mauser.
22 February 2024, 00:03
bluefish
Wouldn’t we call it a 404 Jeffery short?
23 February 2024, 22:37
Atkinson
If brass is hard to find I have a lot of 300 H&H, all WW I think, I would sell it at a good price. New brass loaded and empty, Id have to check, Ive had several years, never fired.


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
24 February 2024, 02:52
Scott King
quote:
Originally posted by Scott King:
quote:
Originally posted by bluefish:
Pics Scott please


I know, sorry, I'll try to get it going in the next couple days.


https://imgur.com/gallery/qc5IHGg

https://imgur.com/gallery/Pn8mJ4l
24 February 2024, 23:36
Bwana_500
Nice mate. Good to see the bolt is on the correct side. That looks like a mostly original Zastava, but I assume rebarreled and also a modified bolt handle?
25 February 2024, 00:03
Scott King
quote:
Originally posted by Bwana_500:
Nice mate. Good to see the bolt is on the correct side. That looks like a mostly original Zastava, but I assume rebarreled and also a modified bolt handle?


I think a Dakota bolt, Timney trigger, Wisner model 70 safety, bedded and crossbolts, NECG iron sights. Yes, rebarreled from a 375 H&H and the barrel band sling swivel.

I got it out just now to head to the range and fire form some more brass, (punishing,) and noticed it still had the factory Zastava recoil pad. faint No wonder it's punishing.
25 February 2024, 00:24
Bwana_500
quote:
Originally posted by Scott King:


I think a Dakota bolt, Timney trigger, Wisner model 70 safety, bedded and crossbolts, NECG iron sights. Yes, rebarreled from a 375 H&H and the barrel band sling swivel.

I got it out just now to head to the range and fire form some more brass, (punishing,) and noticed it still had the factory Zastava recoil pad. faint No wonder it's punishing.


Some nice specs there. I suspect the whole factory stock is not doing you any favours for a cartridge that I feel would otherwise be decently comfortable to shoot. I have several LH Zastavas, including a 416 Rem, but all have been restocked.
25 February 2024, 07:01
Scott King
quote:
Originally posted by Bwana_500:
quote:
Originally posted by Scott King:


I think a Dakota bolt, Timney trigger, Wisner model 70 safety, bedded and crossbolts, NECG iron sights. Yes, rebarreled from a 375 H&H and the barrel band sling swivel.

I got it out just now to head to the range and fire form some more brass, (punishing,) and noticed it still had the factory Zastava recoil pad. faint No wonder it's punishing.


Some nice specs there. I suspect the whole factory stock is not doing you any favours for a cartridge that I feel would otherwise be decently comfortable to shoot. I have several LH Zastavas, including a 416 Rem, but all have been restocked.


I've got some plastic stock stuff and I guess it's ok, but I would like to have and keep some wood stock stuff. I have a Zastava 6.5 Swede a friend here on AR worked over and sold me, the "remodel he did on the factory stock is quite nice I think.

Do you have suggestions? American wood stock makers do some wonderful work but it gets out of my budget quickly.

I pummeled myself thru a few fireform rounds earlier today, the rifle cloverleaf's 400grain hornadays.
25 February 2024, 14:42
Big Wonderful Wyoming
I have a 10,3x68 RWS Blaser R8.
25 February 2024, 17:52
boom stick
quote:
Originally posted by chuck375:
Instead of creating the 400 H&H and 465 H&H, in my opinion, they should have legitimized the 404-375 H&H wildcat and the 470 Capstick putting their H&H moniker on them


Bingo!

Or the 375HH necked up to .411” no shoulder AKA 400 Karamojo


577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375

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08 March 2024, 23:45
johnnyreb
I did see a 400 H&H rifle in the rack at Hollands shooting grounds in Northwoods when I shot clays there in December 2022, but I did not ask to handle it.
26 March 2024, 18:51
Sabretooth
This one I inherited from my father after he passed. Left handed action, built off a Montana 99 (not the best). It was the ACGG application piece for the gunmaker, which got him in. However, I am not left handed...




29 March 2024, 03:24
Bwana_500
Thats a nice looking rifle, despite the Montana action. And I am left handed tu2
07 April 2024, 01:47
boom stick
That stock is sexier than Margot Robbie on her best day.


577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375

*we band of 45-70ers* (Founder)
Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder)
24 April 2024, 17:49
dogcat
I would switch to shooting lefty if I had the piece of art....
25 April 2024, 15:58
Zephyr
quote:
Originally posted by Scott King:
I've got one that Kevin Weaver built on a LH action. It shoots the CEB in a clover leaf with Varget.
I also have North Fork, Hammer and Hornady bullets that group well. I'd use nothing but Barnes TSX, but there's still none available.
I have made brass fron 375 stuff and was able to buy some properly head stamped Roberson brass before they quit.

**All of my properly head stamped 400 brass came form Qual Cart..
** Barnes makes a .411 dia 300gr bullet great for elk
** There are .411 dia 400gr Barnes bullets floating around out there... Barnes was originally going to do all of the prelim SAAMI work but backed out for some reason I have 100 pieces in a bag on a shelf waiting for the right moment
26 April 2024, 00:55
boom stick
quote:
Originally posted by dogcat:
I would switch to shooting lefty if I had the piece of art....

I would chop my right arm off to shoot that


577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375

*we band of 45-70ers* (Founder)
Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder)
03 May 2024, 06:59
Scott King
quote:
Originally posted by Zephyr:
quote:
Originally posted by Scott King:
I've got one that Kevin Weaver built on a LH action. It shoots the CEB in a clover leaf with Varget.
I also have North Fork, Hammer and Hornady bullets that group well. I'd use nothing but Barnes TSX, but there's still none available.
I have made brass fron 375 stuff and was able to buy some properly head stamped Roberson brass before they quit.

**All of my properly head stamped 400 brass came form Qual Cart..
** Barnes makes a .411 dia 300gr bullet great for elk
** There are .411 dia 400gr Barnes bullets floating around out there... Barnes was originally going to do all of the prelim SAAMI work but backed out for some reason I have 100 pieces in a bag on a shelf waiting for the right moment


I did find some 300g tax and shot them this afternoon. It grouped but not impressive. I'm fire forming WW brass with 300g hornadays and they group well.
I didn't shoot anymore CEB, they're a known quantity to me, (very accurate,) so there's no need to punch paper @$2 per shot. Did group some more Hammer and North Fork roughly 300 grain and they cloverleaf. I'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around the bullet fragmenting intentionally so I lean towards the North Fork.

The development for me was a bit murky and I didn't care for that much but the final product impresses me.
05 May 2024, 17:48
Zephyr
If you can find .411 dia Hornady 300gr SP the are very accurate in my gun at 2700fps they make a great varmint round everything you hit turns into a grey mist
https://www.midwayusa.com/s?searchTerm=.411+bulltes
08 May 2024, 07:23
Scott King
quote:
Originally posted by Zephyr:
If you can find .411 dia Hornady 300gr SP the are very accurate in my gun at 2700fps they make a great varmint round everything you hit turns into a grey mist
https://www.midwayusa.com/s?searchTerm=.411+bulltes


I think I have a couple boxes, that's what I've been using to fire form the Robeson and the necked up 375 brass.
In my rifle everything seems very accurate. I'm going to try the tsxs some more, but I've settled on the North Forks and CEB I think. They all shoot to the same point.