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Having actually shot a number of charging Brown Bears I'll go with the 750 grain soft nosed bullet at 2050fps. Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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Karl, change this to lions and i'll be happy to discuss. bears are big and bad, and either one are native to OZ jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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You left out the 750 XLC,very impressive looking bullet.Still need to get out and chrono the ones I have loaded up. | |||
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Karl, I think you need to build your 577 double with 16" barrels so it'll be handy in the brush. With Tritium front bead and ghost ring rear. Maybe a Black teflon finish to fight off the elements. | |||
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I voted for the SP 650 gr having seen what it will do and what it will penetrate I also would like to have a little a more flat shooting round....................+ I can get around 2600 fps in the Nyati with the 650 gr | |||
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Jeffe, Blackbear/lion was to be the second poll which would cover our closest equivalent here a monster boar(sort of). Obviously for a poll on thickskinned african and water buff the 750's will get all the votes.I thought the brown bear might bring the 650 choice into it- to compare with one of our scrub bulls with a 270gn bullet of same SD from a 375. Then again I haven't seen a brown bear. Rob, 750 X as the barnes SP's as well since they are both 750, admittedly the X is a tougher class of bullet. Lar, actually I was thinking more along the lines of a 577 alongside a 10 ga shotbarrel . Heavy and canty and like all cape guns niether fish nor foul, but a hell of a talking point. PC is that the BP or nitro 650 you are using now? Karl. | |||
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Karl, I still use the BP 650 as I want a little more expansion. | |||
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PC as to a little more expansion that bullet at 2600 would be like am anti tank mine going off By the way I notice there are votes for the 750gn FMJ's now as well. Karl. | |||
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Phil Why the 750 grain? I have both the the 3" and the 2 3/4" and would opt for the 650 as being softer. I don't have your experience but I have found the 750 as too hard for Lion. It doesn't open up as much as the 650 grain, although it is adequate. | |||
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Karl Why not just go to the 10 Bore Paradox? A 850 Grain bullet alongside of 10 Bore 4 ought should do some damage. | |||
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