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Has anyone had problems such as feeding due to the belt on cases in calibers like 375H&H and 458? | ||
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I've never had a problem with belted cases feeding. I have a 264 win mag, 308 norma mag, 375 h&h mag, I had a 7mm mag and a wildcat on the same case, as well as a 458 win. I know some people hate belted cases, I have nothing against them. I do see where possible the belt could hang up on the belt of the other cartridge if the round didn't come up into the bolt face all the way maybe?? And I have heard of problems with belts hanging on sharp edges of the chamber if angle was wrong. | |||
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375H&H for me, no issues at all, smooth feeding. (Rounds do need to be within COL specs though, long rounds will feed but not eject unless fired - not related to the belt!) JPK  Free 500grains | |||
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belts have zero DIRECT influence on feeding opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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That has been my feelings over the last 40 years of shooting and reloading. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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I know the now deceased Mr. FRED WELLS of 500 Wells fame felt the belt was a plus. Dan Pedersen told me that himself on the phone one day. He said it acted as a gas check in a way. The web site for D.P. is: www.cutrifle.com Jack OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.} | |||
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Add me to the list of belted folk who have never experienced a problem. 224WBY all the way to 600 Overkill. In fact I have no direct knowledge of anyone who has  NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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I've had zero problems with belted cartridges, have literally shot thousands of rounds, while those calibers that head space on the shoulder are more prone for chambering issues, much more critical when resizing the cases when reloading. No difference in feeding (from magazine)of belted and non belted rounds. "An individual with experience is never at the mercies of an individual with an argument" | |||
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Haven't shot as many rounds as Dirk, but my 375 H&H and 416 Rigby feed just fine in their respective rifles. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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Rigby doesn't have a belt. | |||
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The belt is nothing more than a thick version of a rim. With a narrow rim and a stacked magazine, interlocking of the rims is a distinct possibility. When H&H created the 400/375 cartridge, they added the belt to eliminate the interlocking problem while still maintaining the positive head space control of the rimmed cartridge. | |||
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that was the comparrison, Dave .. that it DOES NOT matter ... opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Oh, OK. Then I'll add that my 22-250Rem feeds my Winchester 1885 single shot just fine. It doesn't have a belt either! | |||
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Great - .. awesome! glad that works for you opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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What a  thread.99 years of use with the H*H case,! Whart does that tell you. Keith IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!! ------------------------------------ We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club | |||
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Nothing more than 104 years with the '06 case. Unless you're trying to say that a properly configured rifle will reliably retain and feed the cartridge it is chambered for. Jim  "Life's hard; it's harder if you're stupid" John Wayne | |||
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OT: Dave, do you have a '69 ZR-2? If so, that is awesome!  NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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I don't think so. What is a '69 ZR-2? | |||
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Well I'm sorry this thread upsets you. I only asked the question after a gunsmith and PH told me of a few niggling problems with the 458WM and I was interested to see if this might be due to the belt. | |||
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Duh- wonder over, about lets see, nearly 100 yrs that if belts caused feeding problems, we would have heard of it by Now? Your gunsmith has issues if he thinks thats true!I'm with Hog Killer-I call BS!-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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