I was at the gun club Friday and met a friend who is having trouble finding primers. Giving him 300 Fed 210's.

We are all in this together right? Right?

No I'm not some sort of saintly Good Samaritan but just another shooter. I don't hoard primers but keep 2-3K of std primers most of the time. Keep 1K+/- of 215's most of the time. Been doing this a long long time, ever since I started burning lots of centerfires. Less time shopping, more time shooting/reloading.

My sons & I compete in small bore silhouette and thus burn large qty's of 22lr. You never could find the amounts of quality ammo in local stores. So most of us have 2-4 cases on hand a at any given time. Now keeping a extra brick or 2 in the trunk if a fellow shooter can't find any (not for free but lend/lease for future).

My point is if you have enough for the next 6 months or so why not start offering a helping hand to fellow shooters who were busy attending to their lives before others cleared all the shelves?

We are all in the together, right? Right?

Pete A.

If he would have read Obama's lips he would not be in this predicament. Maybe Washington can spare some. Attending to your life is also about making sure you have secured your hobby requirments.

Would you give a stash of gold dabloons to a complete stranger? of course not!

You won't see this shooter giving primers OR powder to anyone

Necessity is the mother of invention, Right?

Perhaps the current shortage will prompt someone here to start up a new primer-making business, Right?

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Originally posted by Pete A.:


My point is if you have enough for the next 6 months or so why not start offering a helping hand to fellow shooters who were busy attending to their lives before others cleared all the shelves?

We are all in the together, right? Right?

Pete A.

Yes and no. I'm happy to share with strangers in need (on occasion, and I like to think that random kindness is returned in threes). But I can't escape the ant and grasshopper fable or the saying "luck favors the prepared".

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My point is if you have enough for the next 6 months or so why not start offering a helping hand to fellow shooters who were busy attending to their lives before others cleared all the shelves?

We are all in the together, right? Right?

Pete
On behalf of the shooters at the May 2nd, 2009
AccurateReloading.com Big Bore Association and DRSS "Hoot and Shoot", we'd like to thank you for your kindness for giving us the "Door Prizes" for the event.

Folks, Pete does indeed, practice what he preaches. He didn't show up to shoot. We did not ask for donations. He sent a bunch of primers for door prizes, via one of the club members! A simple act of kindness!

We are, after all is said and done, A BAND OF BROTHERS .

Once again thank you for your generous donations and being a fine example of what Brotherhood should be!

I just posted a long artile on the reloading forum about starting a trade reloading supplies on here.It got deleted by the jerk moditator on there.I hope he runs out of everything.I have seen lots of trading on other forums.I heard the chosen one has signed the treaty to ban reloading all together with mexico.If we dont help each other no one will.I gave a friend of mine 3000 pistol primers last year.I told him lucky him yesturday.I could sell them for $1500 bucks now.Bullets and powder are getting in short supply too.At the gun show yesturday there were no primers.I could kick myself for selling the case of primers I found and dumping the 4 wheel borrows of 223 and 308 brass 5 years ago.I tried to give it to all of my friends that reload none of them wanted it.Its going to get alot tighter.When all the wally worlds are out of 22s for 35 miles its serious.There should be a reloading/ammo trade and wanted section in its own collum on here.There are some at the bottom of this forum that are hardly ever used.

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I heard the chosen one has signed the treaty to ban reloading all together with mexico.

Produce this treay, signed, sealed, and delivered. Until then, like getting 500 bucks a brick of primers, everything you post will have to be taken with a grain of salt

I think the world would be a much better place if everyone studied boom and bust cycles.

Everyone on here should remember the Y2K run up. ARs, ammo, MREs, etc all shot up in price and then when the world didn't end they all shot down.

The only REAL problem we have here is that we are going to see a housing market like bust with the gun stores and gun makers, they just don't know it yet.

People are buying YEARS worth of stuff and will not be buying anything for a long long time. Think of it like the gun market after WWII. During the war we couldn't get enough of anything, after the war there was so much ammo and so many guns that the gun makers died.

This rate of purchase will fall off a cliff when it is done. Will it be in 6 months? 1 year? My guess is 1 year.

Buy low and sell high, now is the time to sell your military stuff and pick up shotguns and hunting stuff that is getting dumped.

I also wouldn't bank on making any money buying ARs and such, everyone is ASSUMING that a ban will be the same as the old by allowing transfers. People are dreaming of Class III and pre ban AR type profits. Personally I don't think we will see a ban but if we do don't bank on transfers being allowed. You might end up with 10 AR lowers you can't legally sell.

Ignore the panic buying and go reread the ruling of District of Columbia v. Heller.

I'll leave you with one last thought, yesterday I swung by the local gunshop and Cabelas to get some last minute things for the Safari I'm leaving for in 10 days. Both the gun store and Cabelas were packed with guys buying stuff. Then I headed to the range to shoot. I was there for over an hour and there wasn't one other person there shooting, not one. It was the same last Sat, only me and this is the largest range in the area. People are hoarding, not shooting.

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Originally posted by dgr416:
It got deleted by the jerk moditator on there.

Really? Man, you need to fact check a little more. You can click on your name, click recent posts, and you can see all your posts
http://forums.accuratereloadin...3811043/m/5411086801

So, not deleted, and vapo answered your perfectly. I'll go along and say this easily
calm down

I've noticed bulk ammo prices starting to receed as supply seems to be improving. Maybe primers & powder aren't far behind, Carter's Country in Houston seems to have it. By the way, Jeffe offered me all the powder I wanted at the shoot & hoot.

Absolutely, people are hoarding. Reloading manuals that aat on the shelves for years disappeared overnight after the election. Our ranges are pretty empty as well. Luckily I have lots of reloading supplies for my 22s, 45s, shotguns and 270s. The 500 Jeffery I still need some stuff for, mainly powder. I didn't buy any more, just kept my normal inventory (about 4000 cases and 7000 230g Bolden Sabres for my 45 Super lol)

Chuck

Rusty;

I have been able to shoot far far more $$ in ammo in 'try this one" by fellow big bore shooters at the 50yds line than what the brick of primers cost me 12 months ago. Berit Aargard Pace let me shoot Finn's 375 H7H there a few times. Her gracious husband Bill let me shoot his fine .500 Jeffery. Rest assured the ammo I consumed was far more costly. I'm still bragging to a shooting buddy that "I got to shoot Finn's 375". Better than any signed baseball!

I still have plenty of primers for my M70 375H&H. However, don't blame me for the sore shoulders.

We/Bayou Rifles are ready and willing "enablers" for firearms addicts. Love to hear about you guys tearing 'em up out there.

Was at the swim meet with my 2 favorite heros (also my favorite shooters!) yesterday morning.

We mostly spend our time trying to knock the turkeys down over on the Eldridge Range but things are a bit soggy there (gate is 3 feet under water). I can't count the number of 22lr rounds my sons have shot there through the years. We'd love to see you there at a match. We got plenty of guns and yes, ammo too. Just another addiction.

Hopefully I'll see you other there soon. We can shoot a bit and swap a few lies.

Pete A.

Those guys are already showing winners form with their shooting. Good job bringing them into the shooters lifestyle.
Frank

I had to go to 20 walmarts to finally find some cci 22s.They were sold out of 22s everywhere.My pistols will only shoot cci 22s as far as I know.I finally found 5 boxes.I asked a local sporting goods store Dicks Sports if they were getting any ammo.They said the were selling out of 22s,308,223 and all pistol ammo in less than 3 hours with each shipment.I went to Bass Pro shop same thing.I have not seen any big bore stuff at all.

dg416
so, they are getting stuff, and hoarders are buying them out .. its NOT that they aren't getting stuff, then, is it?

I'm not positive I understand the 'problem' with being stocked up. I have always kept a large supply of loaded ammo and componets. The firearm is useless without ammo. If nothing else, the inflation in ammo costs the last 5 years has made it a good investment. For example; I bought 100 rounds of federal blue box 30-30 170 grain for $6.99 a box at Cabela's three years ago at the after season close out sale. The same ammo is selling $8.00 to $10.00 more now. Its good to plan ahead. I can give the same type of savings for powder, primers and bullets, not to mention lead shot.

Buckeye, there is NO problem with stocking up. Or buying more. Just like when a storm is coming and wallys runs out of flashlight batteries and lamp oil. Is it our we fault I have a closet shelf full of both?

The source of the problem is down in DC, not your neighbor across the street.

I walked into a local reloading store today .. its tuesday, and the "truck" had been there.

on the shelves where about 100K large pistol primers, 75K small pistol primers, and 25K each of large/small rifle "in the back", but those are limited to 300 per customer per visit, to keep the hoarders at bay

Bullet shelves more or less FULL

10 bottles of h335 (less now)
3031, littlegun, rel7, 2400, unique, etc etc etc.

In other words, the STOCKING problem is just about to tip the scales..

gunbroker prices are DOWN for primers, like 15%

about the only thing not available were 22 shells ...

It was nice to go buy 2K small pistol, so my wife can shoot all the 40SW she wants, and not be scrounging.

Stop hording, boys. buy what you need, and perhaps a bit more, but STOP the hording, and the shortage will stop.

Its a shame last summer I could have gotten lots of reloading stuff but didnt.The guns ar15,mini 14 and others are going down.Magazines for them are starting to trickle in.Its suprising how many rifles are being dragged out of the closet.There is no 223 ,pistol ammo or primers here in Ga.I am headed back to Alaska where I heard they are out of everything at Sportsmans Warehouse.I gotta get some shotgun primers I have none.Lead shot went down from $70 a bag to $40 a bag thats good.I hope bullets go down.The 308 bullets are $25 and up,416 bullets were $45 that use to be $25 .Powder is limited to one pound in places.Walmart and Dicks sports are the ones that stay wiped out.Bass Pro gets pistol ammo but it get gone quick like an hour or so.They dont sell any big bore stuff.It getting hard to find big bore ammo in Ga .Alaska usually has a decient selection of 375H&H and ruger,416rem mag,338 wm ,The rest is an easter egg hunt for big rifles.If I can get primers I am doing good.I finally saw kegs of powders but they lasted an hour.I need to get a bullet mold for each caliber gun I have and start molding bullets for practice .

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I need to get a bullet mold for each caliber gun I have and start molding bullets for practice .

The way it's going for you, by the time you acquire all the equipment, the feds will officially ban lead from everything except nuclear reactors! Good luck nevertheless.