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Has anyone tried one of the $ 89 A&B barrels Midway has for Mauser 98's in 416 Taylor ?

Seems like it might be a fun project for one of my VZ-24's.
 
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I bought one of these around 3 years ago and have been very satisfied with the accuracy and velocity I was able to develope. I am currently testing some new loads and plan to take that and a couple of other rifles out this weekend for some more. I will be posting those a little later.
Built mine on a vz 24 and a boyds stock.
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Be able to tell you shortly. I ordered one on Monday to install on a 1909 DWM Argentine Mauser action. Should be here tomorrow or Friday. The .416 Taylor intrigues me. Fits in a regular action and has ballistics that closely parallel the other .416's. I bought NECG sights to install on the barrel and a Hogue overmoulded stock to drop the barreled action into. Should make an interesting rifle.

Frank, would really be interested in hearing your load information.


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A buddy talked me into an A&B barrel in .338-06 since he was buying one. Both shoot exceptionally well. His does have one problem, he wants to shoot bullets weighing less than 200 grains and it won't do it. Hornady 200gr and Nosler Partition 210gr both shoot under an inch. We've since ordered other barrels and not been disappointed...and I have Shilen, Krieger, Hart, and Douglass bbls on other rifles.


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Yes, and yes... I've tried them, and it's a fun project.

and a neat round

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I have one on a CD action and make brass from 458 win. Shoots 400gr Hornadys in just over 1"
It is a fun project and gives you powerful rifle with very managable recoil
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Will one of these A&B barrels that are threaded for for a '98 Mauser screw up to a current CZ 550 action?
Seems like a inexpensive way to use a 9.3x62 CZ with its double pinned stock and convert to a 416 caliber. Or as usual am I all wet trying to cheeep out again?
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Will one of these A&B barrels that are threaded for for a '98 Mauser screw up to a current CZ 550 action

I'll start by saying I've been wrong in the past. But I believe they are a different thread. A&B makes an untreaded blank that might work.


As usual just my $.02
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Will one of these A&B barrels that are threaded for for a '98 Mauser screw up to a current CZ 550 action

I'll start by saying I've been wrong in the past. But I believe they are a different thread. A&B makes an untreaded blank that might work.


Right, the CZ is a metric thread that is different slightly from the Mauser. They are not interchangeable. You could look up the exact specifications in Stuart Otteson's book. I forget.

The CZ 550's have the same barrel thread as the BRNO(CZ) ZKK's do.
 
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Thanks for the info on the A&B barrel/CZ question. After I wrote that post I was remembering something that my semi retired 'smith had said that would agree with that different thread issue...but then I didn't know if he was just trying to sell me on one of his pet wildcats in a 2" 458 American off of a VZ24 or not. Little bitty guy sez no recoil at all and a real pig stomper out to 200 yards with drop a little better than a 35 Rem in big bullets out of a lever action only in bigger bullets.
416's interest me so we'll see what I can come up with yet that won't break the bank for a play toy that may never get across the pond.
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We could all just build an A&B/Mauser .416 Taylor, and go hunting. Nothing more is neccesary. Some of us are just fools for tinkering and fiddling around because we can't be hunting as much as we would prefer.

Stock up on .458 WinMag brass and get a hundred or two of the properly headstamped cases, and you are set for life.

Either Winchester or Remington brass works fine.

Quality Cartridge .416 Taylor brass seems to be identical to the Remington .458 WinMag necked down to .416.

I hear Remington is not making .458 WinMag brass anymore.

Winchester brass may dry up between their runs.

However, there is always something out there to make .416 Taylor brass out of.
 
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Can the A&B barrell be used on the left hand Daly/Zastava action, or would the extractor cutout have to be different??
 
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However, there is always something out there to make .416 Taylor brass out of.


My first run of 416T brass was made from 338 WM (when 458 WM bulk brass was in temporarilly short supply a few years ago). The neck is a little shorter but it worked fine. Never lost a single case. And I doubt anyone will stop making 338 WM brass any time in the foreseeable future.

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Can the A&B barrell be used on the left hand Daly/Zastava action, or would the extractor cutout have to be different??


There is no extractor cut on a Mauser barrel, unlike the Winchester M70. The extractor collar is integral to the front action receiver ring. The flat ended breech of the Mauser barrel screws up tight against that collar. C-ring, H-ring ... Remember? That A&B barrel will work on either right or left hand Mausers.

Canuck,
I use the .338 WinMag brass to make .375 Taylor brass. You are right, it is not much of a stretch to go on to .416 neck-up.

I have necked up over 200 pieces of .338 Lapua brass to .458 and never lost a single case, nary a split. That one shortens a millimeter or two in the process.

"Anneal before necking up and after necking down," is what Ross Seyfried once said. The Lapua folks obviously annealed after they necked down to .338, but not because they knew I was going to be needing to neck up.

Mr. Jamison insisted I should have good annealing before I necked his basic brass down to .470 Mbogo and then back up to 500/470 Mbogo, so he annealed them on the spot while I waited. He has the Rolls Royce of annealing equipment. thumb
 
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Hi.

I've had such A&B .416 T barrel in my Mauser for quite some years now, and I'm very satified!!
This is my No. 1 moose-gun.
My rifle is a M98. Short, fluted light barrel, and a 1,5-5x20 Leupold (#4) on it. The is a true "warrior" in the woods. thumb
I gave my barrel some really heavy break in, with JB and so, and that make my barrel quite good about fouling.

I have great experience with necking up 338 WinMag-cases as well as 458's. For that expanding task I really have to give the cheap 416T-dieset from LEE some honour. Their exspander are so tapered that there is no problem to stretch the 338-cases in one task.

I just want to add one thing;
I think you might as well buy the .416" -blank.
The A&B-barrels are "short-chambered" and you have to have a reamer to make the chamber finished after the barrel are fitted to the action. That can make a problem.
A friend of mine did just that, and used a new reamer to finish up the his chamber. Then he had a mark around his fired cases, just a couple off mm behind the shoulder. The reamer was slightly smaller than the A&B-reamer.
Then he had to set back the barrel a tread, and go deeper with the reamer, so the remar cut a clean new chamber. Now he's happy!
My point is; if you have to have a reamer anyway, why don't do it all, and have it all good in the first place?

Anyone else run into that problem?


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