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The moderate temps here in New England these last couple weekends have given me the chance to hit the range with new (to me) CZ Safari Classic .404 Jeff.

I enjoy shooting it and have no issues with the operation, feeding, etc. However, the sights are off. It shoots several inches high at 50 and at 75 yards. I don't shoot iron sights other than on pistols but know what the site picture should look like.

I'll have a low power scope for longer shots but having to remember to shoot 4" low at 50yds is unacceptable.

Any suggestions on how to adjust? I am considering replacing the post under the hood with something a bit brighter.


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You need either a taller front bead or a shorter rear sight to lower your point of impact. If you’re looking for something brighter for the front bead, New England Custom Gun sells a replacement fiber optic or white bead in different heights. You will need to measure your front bead with dial calipers, if you have them, to find your height so you will know which one to buy to correct your point of impact. If you don’t have a way to accurately measure, then remove the front bead and look at the bottom of the bead. There will be a number stamped on it. You can email or call me and I can give you the height of that numbered bead. I also have boxes-full of take-off rear sights if you need one. CZ made at least three different height rear sights and I have them all.
 
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NECG Red Fiber Optic blade on my 458

 
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Definitely a taller front sight is indicated.

That said, CZ's Big Bore rifles are know to be hit or miss on the 50- or 100-yd zero of the factory iron sights out-of-the-box.

If you want to remedy that, the NECG sights are a good place to start.


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take out your front blade - (plunger, tap it out) and read the number -- you can order replacements from CZ, in half number increments .. the number on the bottom is in MM ... so, a 5, 6 7, 8, etc, would be the MM height - if 6, a 6.5 and a 7 are cheap


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My ZKK 602 458 had the same situation. I've concluded, based on little evidence, that they don't do a complete sighting in at the factory. They leave it up to the buyer to complete that task. I never bought any replacement front sights, but a front sight set was around $50-60 for my rifle around 2005.
 
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Out of curiosity have you actually tried to adjust the rear sight yet? Maybe I'm missing something but before you mess with higher front sights try adjusting what you currently have.

In answer to your second post no, none of the manufactures sight in the rifle for you. They can't. They have no idea the load or for that the individual preferences of the shooter. That's your job.


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The CZ rear sight isn't adjustable, it's a V and 2 flip up leafs - while it could be filed down, it's easier to just replace the front bead


However, that is a quick work around

Pop up the leafs and see which one makes a better impact


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
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Thanks everyone. I knew I'd get the right answer here. I'll give NECG a shout--they're a local business and Ive been there before. I was thinking of replacing the front post anyways since I find it tough to see anyways.


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The CZ rear sight isn't adjustable, it's a V and 2 flip up leafs - while it could be filed down, it's easier to just replace the front bead


However, that is a quick work around

Pop up the leafs and see which one makes a better impact


Oh ok I didn't know that, thanks.


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The moderate temps here in New England these last couple weekends have given me the chance to hit the range with new (to me) CZ Safari Classic .404 Jeff.

I enjoy shooting it and have no issues with the operation, feeding, etc. However, the sights are off. It shoots several inches high at 50 and at 75 yards. I don't shoot iron sights other than on pistols but know what the site picture should look like.

I'll have a low power scope for longer shots but having to remember to shoot 4" low at 50yds is unacceptable.

Any suggestions on how to adjust? I am considering replacing the post under the hood with something a bit brighter.


Are you using only one load with this rifle? Is it factory ammo? I ask because I handload for this cartridge, and not only do my handloads deviate substantially from supposed factory velocities (whether traditional or modern), but I would make a decision as to what ammo I would want to use to regulate iron sights first, then regulate the irons.


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this may have been over looked -- i was just looking at my youngest son's 458 cz-mex-chester , this morning, and recalled this

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

Pop up the leafs and see which one makes a better impact


my youngest son, at 16, was, shall we say, slight .. compared to dad, who can only be called "slight" when compared with professional football players, want a "big gun" -- as i recall, we were at the range, working on a kodiak 58, trying to get the loads right, and i had my 500 jeffe there, just to pass the time with some zen like concentration

the 500 really made a fireball with those loads, as i recall, wc846 or rl22 ..., and about a quarter cup of it!

Geoff wanted a "big gun" ...

well.. i had a stock that fit him, a winnie featherweight stock (you see where this is going, right?), a cz 550 takeoff barrel, and a 1910 mexican mauser action, along with a reamer, some marine tex, and some time, a lathe, and then, bluing tanks... of all of those, the only thing left is the lathe, as i have zero time and no tanks

the kid loved the gun, and would shoot until i put up the ammo -- which, being a mexican mauser, where 405 remingtons loaded short on the front groove, but still pretty good loads (a heaping teaspoon of something fairly fast) .. he wouldn't let me cut down the barrel -- and it was a hassle to get the sights correct -- that's when i learned there are at least two rear sight heights.

it sure was fun, watching grown men fret over their 300 whizbang kicking them to hard... and mr 145lb (soaking wet, with full ammo load in his pockets) crack off 3 from a 458 .... that's been nearly 15 years ... with kids of his own ... he doesn't shoot much anymore .. i kind of miss that


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
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I am using only Hornady dgx so far. I'll try flipping up the leaf sights at 50 and see how that works next weekend. I'll still replace the front to something brighter as pictured above.

This rifle sure is a lot of fun to shoot and certainly draws a crowd at the range--usually causing me to leave.

Last weekend someone asked if it was a coyote gun since the ammunition box said "dangerous game".....I do live in Massachusetts after all.homer


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