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I've got a box of these, but haven't tried them yet in my .375 RUger Anyone use these for hunting in your .375 caliber rifle? 375 Ruger- The NEW KING of the .375's!! | ||
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I have just ordered a box for my 375 Ruger as well. So unfortunately cant help you - yet.. | |||
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I've been using them on blacktail deer for a while now. You can push them to over 3000fps (in an H&H) but for our local deer that only weigh about 100-125lbs, I prefer to load them down a bit. For bigger game like elk I think something on the order of 260-270gr would be better and of course 300gr for the big stuff. Have gun- Will travel The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark | |||
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225gr hornady's at 2900 kill like mad .. 235 TSX hit HARD at 2800 opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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dont agree when talking only about Barnes TSX bullets and other monolithic expanding softs.. My experience shows clearly that a little less bulletweight and more vel performs better than extra long standard weight bullets at normal vel. In .375 I would go with 235 or 270 grs TSX - not the 300 grs - they are too long. In my 416 Wbys with fast twist barrels (1-12" and 1-10") I get better penetration using a 300 grs at 3200 f/s or a 350 grs a 3000 f/s compared to a 400 TSX at 2750 f/s). | |||
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Interesting observations. Is the increased penetration evident on game or in test media? Thanks. | |||
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In my experience, the 235s when pushed to max velocity spoil too much meat. Heavier and slower works better for me. Have gun- Will travel The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark | |||
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Tried them and never could get them to group acceptably in my rifle. about 2.5" was normal. On the otherhand 270's and 300's stay under .75" without much trouble. Yes it's cocked, and it has bullets too!!! | |||
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What have you killed with the Hornadys and the TSX? Just deer? Or moose./elk sized critters, too? 375 Ruger- The NEW KING of the .375's!! | |||
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When I was choosing a barnes bullet for my 375 weatherby I was going to use the 235tsx. Jessica (Randy & Connie's daughter)at Barnes convinced me to go with the 270tsx. I was told the 235 sheds velocity too fast and isn't that good for long range shooting compared to the 270 & 300. | |||
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I think that Barnes should bring out a 250gr TTSX, which should be a great balance of velocity, expansion, longer range, penetration, the whole works for North America... However, I think the 235gr TSX shoudl have enough horsepower out to 400 yards or so? 375 Ruger- The NEW KING of the .375's!! | |||
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Gatehouse Powder is the problem. IMR 4064 as an example peters out pretty fast in my .375 Wby. With 250-grain Sierras @ 2680 fps, I was 3" high at 100 yards and already 7" low at 300 yards. With IMR 4831 at 2900 fps I was 6" high at 100 yards and already 4" low at 300 yards. (Didn't move the scope from using 300-grainers.) _______________________ | |||
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Since I can no longer get Barnes original X bullets 210 grain, I am switching to GS Custom 200 gr HV. I have used them in the past but the loads were done by someone else for their .375 H&H. I was most impressed! I will be doing the handloading this time and for my rifle. Andy We Band of Bubbas N.R.A Life Member TDR Cummins Power All The Way Certified member of the Whompers Club | |||
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270s are as light as I have cared to go. And they have always done the job. Kynoch dropped the 235s for that very reason. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Tried them out today with H48965 Went ot a max load (from Hodgdon) but velocity wasn't great- about 2810fps, and I can get 2760fps with 260gr Accubonds and 270gr TSX in my 20" barrel .375 Ruger Accuracy was excellent, though. 375 Ruger- The NEW KING of the .375's!! | |||
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like others I haven't been able to get excellent accuracy with Barnes 235 tsx's. Try Sierra 250's or Nosler Accubond 260's with 71.0 grains RL-15. Both of these loads group < 1 MOA in my 375 H&H. Regards, and happy shooting/hunting, Bill. | |||
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235gr TSX accuracy was very good in my Alaskan, but maybe a different powder can boost the velocity...260gr Accubonds, 270gr TSX, 300gr Accubond and 270gr Hornady bullets all provide excellent accuracy,too. 375 Ruger- The NEW KING of the .375's!! | |||
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Regarding velocities in the 375 Ruger then please look at this: http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-Hawkeye375.htm by Jeff Quinn. Take a look at http://www.realguns.com/loads/375Ruger.htm as well. Both were with a 23" barreled African, but still velocities are pretty good. | |||
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The fellow in the RealGuns column got 3150'ish with the Barnes 235gr TSXFB - - not bad!! | |||
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here is the hole story.. part one and two: http://www.realguns.com/archives/143.htm | |||
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I have the same issue with the Barnes, my Browning does'nt like them. They are great bullets, that won't shoot worth a damn out of my rifle. Its not picky with any other bullet. | |||
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Read the realguns article... Also compared Hodgdon data to Barnes data. Seems hodgdon lists a max charge of 71 gr H4895, while Barnes maxes out at 77gr. Hmmm....  375 Ruger- The NEW KING of the .375's!! | |||
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I have used the 235 TSXs in my 376 steyr a bunch...accuracy has been around MOA and I have never recovered one. I have taken 4 wild pigs with the bullet and 2 were 3/4 length pass throughs inside shoulder to off side ham. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Try H-414.  It's the nuts for 250 SGK's. I'm getting 3060 fps (in a 26" barrel)at a grain under max. I sight 1 3/4" high at 100 and can eat up an 8" gong at 300 yards with a 12:00 hold all day long. That sight-in puts the ball just over 40" low at 500 yards and just under a ton of retained energy. With a little higher 100 yard zero, she'd make an awesome 500 yard "whatever ails you" gun. Founder....the OTPG | |||
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Try RL-15. I am using it in the .375 H&H with the 250 Sierras and am quite pleased. ****************************** There comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor polite, nor popular -- but one must ask, "Is it right?" Martin Luther King, Jr. | |||
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Hi Mike What kind of velocity are you getting from the .376 ? | |||
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Never chronoed them...I would guess 2675 +/- Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I've shot them just to shoot them. I have a couple of boxes of them. | |||
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Mike's being modest .. he's generally 3 shots under moa ... tsx in 376 can go over 2800, but something less than that is comfie opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Mike, I would expect more FPS. My 376 Steyr with a 23"barrel in a Montana Arms Action averages 2695FPS at 20' with factory loaded Hornady 270grain bullets. Cases do show a shiney mark of the extractor on the head of the case so they may be pretty hot loads at least for my rifle. I had this rifle chambered for 270 grain Swift A-Frames loaded to just over 3" OAl. I have been averaging 2595 with a full case of Varget; slightly compressed and I think it was 62.5 grains.I had great results with this load in Africa from a Mountain Reedbok to a big Eland (one shot DRT with a pass through from 165yards). I do plan to try some other powders that are a tad faster especially if I try some 300grain bullets as I will need to seat them deeper in the case. I would like to try some of the GS 250grain bullets that were made especially for the 376 Steyr and should make for a very flat shooting rifle for plains game in places like the wide open spaces of Namibia. I also saw some great results from another hunter using factor 260grain Accubond's in a 375 H&H out to 300yards. I might try some of them if they are not too long. Length might be the reason GS has a 250grain bullet for the Steyr as they also list a 265grain bullet. I wish Barnes would also make a 250grain bullet. | |||
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