nickblaze..Its a fine gun ..enjoy it and dont let the anti weatherby crowd spoil the good times a head of you..steve Oh and by the way the 460 hits
its mark..75 yards.. 4 power..unbreaked..

nickblaze
I have had several Weatherby rifles.
I NEVER had ANY feeding, extraction or ejection problems with any of them.
I had a 416 WBY Mag for a while. The only 2 things I did not like about it was its recoil, and the fact that it did not have iron sights.
I have shot a friends 460 WBY a few times.
If you do not like the recoil of factory loads then just load 500 grain bullets at 2100fps or up depending on the level of recoil you want to put up with.

For full power loads the only soft point bullets I would trust would be the Swift A Frame, Trophy Bonded Bearclaw, North Fork, or the Barns X.
Which exact 460 Wby do you have.

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N E 450 No2

I agree with you on the iron sights. thats why I chose the 378 and 460 in the DGR model.378 top..460 bottom! Thanks for your imput

i've never been a member of any forum thats given me so many responses. thank you guys for all of your input, either for or against.
any information i can get will be a help to me. I was supposed to pick up the rifle this afternoon but the scope did not come in with the gun, so i'm going to have to wait until tomorow after work. hopefully i'll get a chance to put a couple through it and let you guys know how it went.
thanks again, and keep the info coming.

btw, NE 450 No. 2, I ordered a Mark V custom deluxe .460 weatherby.
the original plan was to go with the safari, but i was having some trouble at the gun store locating a new one for sale.
i don't normally spend that much money on a rifle, and from what i was told the safari was pretty pricey. the only guns i have more money into than this weatherby is a few AR-15's that i never shoot and should have never purchased.

nickblaze
Keep us posted on how the 460 shoots.

AKA
I have a soft spot in my Heart for the Weatherby DGR.
I was involved in a "project" where the Weatherby DGR was chosen by me, in 375 H&H and 458 Win Mag, as issue rifles for dangerous Animal escapes.

The Weatherby DGR in 458 Win Mag saved my life when I was charged from 12 yards by a Gorilla that had escaped his habitat from our local zoo.
I shot the Gorilla at 6 yards.

While I did have time to wish I had my 450 No2, double rifle, the Weatherby well handled, did save my bacon.

I have owned 5 Weatherby rifles, and my project involved 12 others. All have given good service.

My .460 is a custom on a Brno 602 action. I load 112gr of H4350 under a 500gr Hornady for 2360fps. No brake. The gun is not unpleasant, even off the bench. I'm not a fan of the Mk5, but there is nothing wrong with the caliber. Bob

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Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
nickblaze
Keep us posted on how the 460 shoots.

AKA
I have a soft spot in my Heart for the Weatherby DGR.
I was involved in a "project" where the Weatherby DGR was chosen by me, in 375 H&H and 458 Win Mag, as issue rifles for dangerous Animal escapes.

The Weatherby DGR in 458 Win Mag saved my life when I was charged from 12 yards by a Gorilla that had escaped his habitat from our local zoo.
I shot the Gorilla at 6 yards.

While I did have time to wish I had my 450 No2, double rifle, the Weatherby well handled, did save my bacon.

I have owned 5 Weatherby rifles, and my project involved 12 others. All have given good service.

A gorrila?? and at 6 yards? . Now thats a first. May I ask why you chose the weatherby DGR?

I wouldn't think you'd need a brake at 2360. But then that's not a Weatherby at that velocity; it's a hot 458 Lott. If we're going to discuss the relative recoil of guns by generic cartridge names lets do it at the intended velocities. The 460 with a 500 gr bullet at 2600-2650 is a whole 'nother animal but still not as unpleasant as full house 378s.

Tiggertate
I can go shoot a dozen rounds out of my 378 off the bench with full power loads, my old 460 the limit was 6-8 before feeling like I was punched in the head. I'm talking a good punch that makes thinking hard. Maybe I'm backwards to most but I think its all hype, the 378s just an H&H with 30 grs more powder. The 460 takes more of a faster powder with way bigger bullets in front, ouch. Its gotta hurt more doesn't it?

My fat ass doen't move out of the way fast as some people's. I am more sensitive to recoil velocity than all-out recoil energy. So far, I can shoot bullets up to 700 grs at up to 2300-2400 without a great penalty except fatigue. When something as light as 300 gr goes real fast (like 2800 fps) it hurts me.

They say recoil is all in the mind and that's how my mind sees it. Others have different experiences, I'm sure.

It may also be that my body just doesn't fit the MkV stock design. I have never shot a WBY in any other so I can't rule that out. FWIW, I have no intention of making a full house 416 Wby 'cause I figure it's the worst of both worlds; high recoil velocity and high energy. I'd like to try one once, though.

Holy crap, 700s at the speed must get your attention. I think everyone perceives recoil their own way. My 460 was a #1 so that alone could have made a big difference. I also would assume the .416 WBY would have to be quite nasty.

AKA
I had to pick a rifle that was "ready to go" out of the box, with no gunsmithing.
Calibers had to be 375 H&H and 458 Win Mag.

Tiggergate
I had 2 friends that had 378 WBY Mags, one Magna-Ported, one KDF braked.
I had a 416 WBY Mag and another friend had a 460 with the Pendleton de-kicker [the brake with the little holes in the bbl.]
I shot all of them and would rate the recoil as follows, from least to most.

378 with KDF. I could shoot this rifle prone off of a Harris bipod like a sniper rifle.

378 with Magna-Port. Still fairly thumpy off of the bench.

416 with KDF. Pretty stout off the bench even with the brake. Without the brake, just too much recoil for fast follow up shots.

460 with the Pendleton de-kicker. You need to "be ready" when you shoot the 416 or the 460.

All above rifles are Weatherby with factory Weatherby ammo.

Alright, well i picked up the rifle today and put a couple rounds through it. i ended up putting 5 through it, 3 on the bench and 2 standing. i did have the brake installed, but it did not kick all that terrible. was it worse then anything else i own/have ever shot...yeah...but theres no bruising as of yet.
i would have put some more through it, but the gun was bore sighted incorrectly from the shop, long story, and i wasn't hitting paper at 50 so i put it up. 90 a box is too much to be walking in the first few rounds.
it is an amazing rifle, its beautiful, and when it goes off...damn that thing is loud. you can feel the gas from the brake on your face, and when my friend put one through it i could feel the concussion quite clearly about 12 feet away.
needless to say i got a lot of attention at the range, it was nice to have the biggest, but everybody wanted to put one through it, and i felt like an ass saying no.
so far so good though, thanks for all the help.

There is one called 'Safari Deluxe', or something? Lovely magazine rifle with quarter rib, very 'haute culture'! It goes well with Keisselstein-Cord cravate, Versace Safari jacket, Cartier 'Pasha' watch,.....

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Originally posted by MTM:
Holy crap, 700s at the speed must get your attention. I think everyone perceives recoil their own way. My 460 was a #1 so that alone could have made a big difference. I also would assume the .416 WBY would have to be quite nasty.

Funny thing about the 700 gr bullets; they are in the 550 Magnum that RNS developed which is a .55 caliber blown-out Weatherby case!

Sounds absurd, I know but that means the 700 gr 550 Weatherby is easier to shoot than the 500 gr 460, 400 gr 416 or 300 gr 378. Goes back to recoil velocity, not recoil energy.

I never found the 460 all that bad, but that B*tch .378 would wear my a** out! Years ago, I worked for a large gun retailer with a range. They do a lot of business on gun sales and sighting in rifles for the customers(Go figure!?!) If you asked them which one they hated most to see coming, it was unanimous, the .378! Makes my Jaw hurt just thinking about it! Lee.

nickblaze
Congratulations on the first range session with your new 460.

You must start reloading. 500 gr Hornady bullets are "fairly" inexpensive. You can reload for quite a bit less than factory loads cost.

I would start with say:
89gr of IMR 3031

94gr of IMR 4064

96gr. of IMR4320

104gr of IMR4350

with the 500gr Hornady and work up.
All of these loads are @ 2300fps.

Yeah, I agree, reloading is almost a must. It makes shooting the .460 so much more fun. You can shoot many more reloaded rounds than factory rounds for a given amount of money. Plus, there is a very large selection of loads/bullets for the reloader.