I voted for the RUM Why? ...Well because I have one and it shoots SWEET!

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Originally posted by Wink:
How did an obsolete caliber like 375 Weatherby get on the list? By obsolete I mean no major manufacturer makes loaded ammo for it anymore, do they? And how come the .375 Dakota isn't on the list? More whump than the H&H, fits in a standard length action, I thought that was what all the fuss was about.

Geez, Wink, Weatherby resurrected the .375 weatherby in 2001 and I am still buying factory loaded ammo off the shelf as recently as 2006.

Borned in 1944, it is the original .375 Improved, and it is still around, far from obsolete.

Weatherby played the game of discontinuing it when they brought out the .378 Wby, so as to force the .378 down the throat of the market.

Too easy to make a .375 Wby out of any .375 H&H rifle, not good for MK V sales.

The .375 Wby ammo was still catalogued last time I looked.

.375 Dakota? What's that? Deader than a doornail since the .375 Ruger.

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Originally posted by SuperSpeed:
RIP,

The 375 H&H now has 4 votes so from that we know that Dan has 4 computers

Mike,

Only four?

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Originally posted by Roland1:
Members,

I you would hunt all over the world and have the choice to take one rifle of the 4 described below.
Which one would it be and why?

Thank you,
Roland

Without doubt : 375 HH with 350grs norma PH

Model 70 375 H&H with 300 grain Nosler Partitions.

Nothing wrong with the 375HH. I have a 375WBY that becomes a 375HH any time I want it to.

By reading this thread you would think that the Weatherby or Rem UM were the favorites but they only have 19 votes while the venerable 375 H&H has 74 votes. Maybe the high vel crowd needs to sell their favorite more than the H&H crowd!



465H&H

.375 H&H, surprised that this can be seriously debated.

Poll results tell the story!!!

Thank you all for your contribution,

Roland

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Originally posted by Bill Soverns:
.375 Ruger...why? Because I dont sell my rifles so Im not worried about a secondary market and customs typically dont hold value anyway.

But the main reason is I can build a more compact trim rifle with the Ruger chambering and still have the same stopping power.

Seconded... AND Left handed from the factory!

why the 375 ruger?
three words
cheap factory guns

why the 375 ruger?
it is nominally loaded faster than the 375 hh (same complaints apply to the lott, or anyone going more thana 2250 in a 404)

why the 375 ruger? it would be nearly childws play to make a guild rifle look alike in that caliber, and it fit the concept...

Say, how many of you own a 300WIN/weatherby/308 norma/30-338/300rum/300wsm and do not own a 300HH???

that, my friends, is exactly "why" the 375 ruger...

jeffe

jeffe,

I don't think the analogy of the 300 H&H/300 Win etc holds.

When the 300 Win came out the velocity craze was on and the 300 H&H factory ammo had very poor listed ballistics but from memory the 300 Win was listed at 3070 for 180s and 3400 for 150s.

The Wby influence was strong. Just look at a 1970s M70 XTR and is almost a copy of the Wby Mark V stock.

Another difference is that the 375 H&H is far more entrenched than was the case for the 300 H&H in the mid 60s.

Personally, I think the 375 Ruger will mainly bite into the 338 market and especially if guns like the Vanguard/Howa etc are available in 375 Ruger and the standard Rem 700 models.

Mike

Mike,
respectfully I disagree. The main contention of the "anti" group seems to be "well, the 375HH is good enough".. and, you know, it is.

however, the most DIRECT comparison between the 375 HH and 375 ruger is the 300H and 300win....

one is 3.65" long, the other is 3.35" long

one fits in a long action, one in a standard action

one is a jillion years old, the other is a pipsqueek that comes be-bopping long, going faster with more pressure.

in fact, if the 375 ruger was made from 300win brass (not quite the same case as the 375 taylor) it would be a PERFECT comparison.

and the fact is that nearly non of use have made the 300hh choice, as now, 50 years from the onset, nostalgia can waver back to the 300 HH...

and winchester just DROPPED it from their brass production.. not a seasonal run.. GONE

I don't suggest that the 375 ruger will do the same to the 375 HH... though i DO suggest that it will be a serious step for the guys wanting an HH but unwilling to pay the price for it..

heh, and why does the 308 hold on, as the 30-06, in a bolt gun, is far superior?

jeffe

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heh, and why does the 308 hold on, as the 30-06, in a bolt gun, is far superior?

Jeffe,

I think there are three basic reasons.

Firstly the 308 is a current military calibre.

Secondly, the factory ballistics don't look much different to 30/06 factory ballistics.

Third, the 308 is available in shorter actions and those actions often match the same action the same gun maker does for 223, 22/250 and 243.

But in many cases the action for the 30/06 is the same as for the 375 H&H.

But time will tell

Mike