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Howdy guys. My RSM is here and it's one heck of a nice looking rifle. I can't wait to get out and put a few rounds through it. I have a Leo VX-III 1.5-5x scope to mount on it. The rifle came with Ruger medium rings. Would these be the best bet, I'd imagine I could get away with low rings. Also, I was looking at getting some Warne QDs for this rifle, but only see them listed at medium height, no low rings. Is anyone using the Warne medium rings on their Rugers, and if so, are you happy with them? Thanks!
 
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Always mount a scope as low as you can place it on the rifle, within the physical limitations of the scope and to properly clear the bolt handle. For your Ruger, go with Ruger's low rings, or else go with a set of Talley detachable rings and you'll be all set......

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go to leupold.com and use their selection tool http://www.leupold.com/resources/MountFitChart/default.asp

this says leupold ruger HIGH rings... for your particular combo.

Allen,
this may not be commmon knowledge, but low rings nearly NEVER work intregal bases and with large eyepiece scope, and should be reserved for fixed power scopes with strong cut bolt handles or mounts not intregal mounts.

Again, you an NOT use low ruger rings on an RSM with use about any modern variable scope.

the link above should help with this

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The rib on the RSM causes the problem.


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With the specified 1.5-5X Leupold, there's no problem with low rings, at least none that I can see.

Leupold always recommends going with the lowest possible rings, provided that the scope will clear the barrel, etc............

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With the specified 1.5-5X Leupold, there's no problem with low rings, at least none that I can see.

Leupold always recommends going with the lowest possible rings, provided that the scope will clear the barrel, etc............

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Allen,
ah, well... leupold suggests HIGH on this application.. click on the link and see
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If you're going to go with Leupold rings, that's true.

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If you're going to go with Leupold rings, that's true.

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Yeah, I don't think Leupold makes Ruger style rings in all of the various heights.

Allen is correct about the low rings with the Leupold 1.5-5x (20mm) scope. I have the Ruger low rings on two Ruger M77 Magnum rifles with the Leupold 1.5-5x 20mm scopes. Fits perfectly.

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go to leupold.com and use their selection tool http://www.leupold.com/resources/MountFitChart/default.asp

this says leupold ruger HIGH rings... for your particular combo.

Allen,
this may not be commmon knowledge, but low rings nearly NEVER work intregal bases and with large eyepiece scope, and should be reserved for fixed power scopes with strong cut bolt handles or mounts not intregal mounts.

Again, you an NOT use low ruger rings on an RSM with use about any modern variable scope.

the link above should help with this

jeffe



jeffe,

The Leupold straight-tube variables work fine in the Ruger low rings (using the integral bases). Also, the eyepiece of the scope clears the bolt handle just fine on my two rifles.

-Bob F.
 
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If you're going to go with Leupold rings, that's true.

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Yep! I'm not using leupold rings. The Ruger med rings will work for sure. I was just wondering if anyone had gotten by with the low rings. Either way, Warne doesn't appear to make a low ring for the Ruger... so I'll just get their medium rings and call it good. Thanks!
 
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Originally posted by allen day:
If you're going to go with Leupold rings, that's true.

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Yep! I'm not using leupold rings. The Ruger med rings will work for sure. I was just wondering if anyone had gotten by with the low rings. Either way, Warne doesn't appear to make a low ring for the Ruger... so I'll just get their medium rings and call it good. Thanks!


I have exactly the same scope and rifle and am using the Warne medium QD rings. It is an almost perfect (for Me) setup. Warne doesn't make low QD rings for Ruger as with some guns the bolt handle won't clear the scope. The Warne mediums are lower than the Ruger mediums. At the lowest zoom setting the front sight is still visible but I wouldn't want the scope any higher what with the recoil level of the Lott and all.

I also removed the rear express sight and am using an NECG rear peep sight. I'm a bit older and can't see the rear sight anymore if I'm focused on the front sight and the target. The peep solves that for Me and it's faster and as (or more) accurate than the express setup.

Hope this helps.

Roi

P.S. IMHO on a DGR you DO want to be able to remove the scope for "up close and personal" shooting situations.


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Originally posted by allen day:
If you're going to go with Leupold rings, that's true.

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Yep! I'm not using leupold rings. The Ruger med rings will work for sure. I was just wondering if anyone had gotten by with the low rings. Either way, Warne doesn't appear to make a low ring for the Ruger... so I'll just get their medium rings and call it good. Thanks!


I have exactly the same scope and rifle and am using the Warne medium QD rings. It is an almost perfect (for Me) setup. Warne doesn't make low QD rings for Ruger as with some guns the bolt handle won't clear the scope. The Warne mediums are lower than the Ruger mediums. At the lowest zoom setting the front sight is still visible but I wouldn't want the scope any higher what with the recoil level of the Lott and all.

I also removed the rear express sight and am using an NECG rear peep sight. I'm a bit older and can't see the rear sight anymore if I'm focused on the front sight and the target. The peep solves that for Me and it's faster and as (or more) accurate than the express setup.

Hope this helps.

Roi


That's exactly the info I was looking for. Thanks a lot!
 
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I don't think any of the rings are as low as the factory Ruger 1" low ringmounts. I have a Ruger RSM that I normally use w/out a scope. Just for giggles, I tried a new LEU 1.5-5x and also an older LEU 1-4x w/ the low mounts and the medium mounts. THE LOW MOUNTS BRINGS THE SCOPE CLOSER TO THE EXPRESS SIGHTS AND WORK. The Ruger stock is desighed for fixed sights and I would prefer the lower mounts w/ scope.

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I've got an RSM with the Leupold variable. Also tried it with a couple of other low power variables. I found that with the medium Ruger rings, the scope was way too high and whacked my cheek. Had to hold my cheek off the stock to aim, and really slowed it down. I bought a set of the medium Warnes and they were essentially the same height as the Rugers. I have gone to the Ruger lows, and will be converting them to QD.

No matter the size of the scope, any set of medium or high rings will place the scope center way too high above the comb for effective scope use unless you are really, really fleshy or very low cheekbones.

This is one of those situations where a stock is made with ideal dimensions for iron sights and any scope is a compromise. The lower the centerline, the better the compromise. For really serious use with a scope, I would want the rifle restocked or a cheek pad added.
 
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I'm not sure I believe the Leupold chart. I'm pretty sure I used low rings on my 375 RSM with a Leupold 1.5-6x42 LPS and the bell clears by just under 1/8 inch - no bolt interference. The high rings spec'd on the Leupold chart looked like a pair of stilts. I had the same problem as Art S - with tall rings your cheek takes a whoopin'.

Your spending a pretty good sum here so make the dealer where you're buying the rifle try different rings and fit the lowest possible. With the 1.5-5 VX III you should be able to use the lowest rings. That is the scope I wished I had used instead of the LPS just for this reason.
 
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I'm not sure I believe the Leupold chart. I'm pretty sure I used low rings on my 375 RSM with a Leupold 1.5-6x42 LPS and the bell clears by just under 1/8 inch - no bolt interference. The high rings spec'd on the Leupold chart looked like a pair of stilts. I had the same problem as Art S - with tall rings your cheek takes a whoopin'.

Your spending a pretty good sum here so make the dealer where you're buying the rifle try different rings and fit the lowest possible. With the 1.5-5 VX III you should be able to use the lowest rings. That is the scope I wished I had used instead of the LPS just for this reason.


Thanks for the info. I know I can swap out for some low ruger rings. I was just really wanting the Warne's so i could get them off quickly if need be... and so it would return to zero. I've heard that the ruger rings (Modified with a lever for QR) aren't good on the return to zero front. I enjoy shooting both open sighted and with a scope... and I don't like the idea of having to sit back down at the bench with my Lott everytime I go back and forth hammering Big Grin
 
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Blah,

I have the Ruger 458 Lott with Ruger Low Mount rings fitted with a set of quick release mounts from Falcon Industries (I beleive is the name of the company). They come off quick and scope returns to zero every time I put it back on.

worked flawlessly every time for me.
 
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