OK, I was sceptical. Now I'm a believer. I cleaned nine rifles and all I needed was a patch and a jag. It really does dissolve everything...and I mean everything. On my .22 centerfires it only took about a second to fill the bore but my 375 and 416...well lets just say a little longer. And like .470 I had some difficulty with the plastic cone and rifles with barrel band front sights...it was awkward but do-able. No what am I going to do with all those brushes and bottles of shooters choice and sweets?

I have ordered some of the stuff.

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RAB

I called up and ordered a can yesterday.

I expected to get a receptionist, but I think I talked with the owner himself. He spent about 5 minutes on the phone explaining how to get the best results - very nice guy.

He hadn't heard about this forum, so I sent him the URL for this thread.

We may hear from him in the near future...

Rick.

I am a dealer for this fine product (and I thought my Sako 222 Mag was clean...WRONG!)
I have Wipe Out in stock as well as Flush Out.
$11 for Wipe Out and $8 for Flush Out (degraser etc.)
I ship UPS.
Let me know if I may be of help.
I have Tuffpaks in stock too.
www.hunters-hq.com

I am a dealer for this fine product. I have cleaned four of my rifles so far..one had not been shot in 30 yrs. and I just bought it. The others are mine and I just thought I had cleaned them.
Get ready for lots of blue patches the first cleanings. This stuff WORKS!
The Wipe Out is $11 and I also stock the degreaser Flush Out at $8.
I have Tuffpak gun cases in stock too.
Let me know if I may be of help. I ship UPS.
www.hunters-hq.com

After reading these posts, I couldn't resist trying this product on a relatively new Dakota Safari 375 H&H (about 100 rounds fired). Here are my observations.

- sprayed the foam from the breach using a bore guide (without solvent reservoir). Absolutely no mess and no residue in the action. The excess foam was neatly pushed out the end of the barrel.

- first application was left in barrel 2 hours and using a patch and jag, found no blue residue. However the "tiger stripes" at the end of the bore were eliminated. There was obviously some residual copper fouling but not enough to cause the tell-tale bluing effect.

- My usual cleaning regimen with Sweet's 7.62, and J-B, had probably kept the copper fouling under control. However I was never able to eliminate the highly visible "tiger stripes" until I used this product.

I was impressed with the product's ease of use and will continue to experiment with it on my other rifles. I think we have a winner here. Noting the difficulty some users had with excess foam in the action, I recommend trying the bore guide method as I found it to be very clean way to use it.

Have thoroughly cleaned 4 of my big bore rifles and Wipe-out even got my .416 clean for the first time ever.
Last weekend took a .375 H & H Mod 70, which always had the previous Cu ribbons as a residual, out to the range. After a good cleaning, my first 3 rounds off the bench at 100yds had a wide spread (3 to 4 inches). I was somewhat alarmed as the rifle was previously sighted in for 100. However, the next 3 rounds were grouped < 1 inch. Seemed to improve accuracy slightly once the rifle bore was "sweetened" again.

Has any one experienced this using this product? Should mention that the last patch had a small amount of oil on it.

My doctor says, "Go ahead, keep shooting big bores"

At the advise of M'Bogo I went out and bought some wipe out as it appears that I was using a product called Forrest and it is also a foam, I was not impressed with it...

The wipe out is very good indeed, so be carefull all that stuff is not the same.

M'bogo,
didn't we have this dicussion someplace else, on another thread or forum??

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Ray Atkinson

ray@atkinsonhunting.com
atkinsonhunting.com

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Atkinson:
Hi Ray,
This is the only forum that I've discussed Wipe Out on. I'm glad you had a chance to use it . With your first post being so opposite of what I was finding for results I thought something was a little strange.

470 Mbogo

I have also ordered some of this stuff based on the feedback posted here.

Has anyone borescoped their rifle:

1. Before conventional cleaning,
2. after conventional cleaning and before Wipe-Out, and
3. After Wipe Out?

With all the high dollar equipment the forum members have, somebuddy has to have a borescope and a can of Wipe Out.

Just curious how things looked before during and after, so to speak.

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I know the next rifle will be perfect.......

I ordered two cans, We'll see how good this stuff is!

Well, I have almost finished off my first can. It didn't last 100 cleanings, but it sure cleaned the crap out of all my rifles. I am sold on it. It cleaned bores that I have never been able to clean with thoroughly with other standard cleaning solutions.

FWIW though, I only got about 20 cleanings out of a can. I might have gotten 30 if I was a little less wasteful.

Canuck

I finally received my product from these folks. Damn, took nearly four weeks.

I had a 25.06 ready and waiting to test. The rifle had been cleaned thoroughly and there was no visible copper fouling nor did Sweets or Butchs indicate presence of the same.

Applied the Wipe Out, let sit overnight, and pushed a tight one through which came out mildly blue! I had scrubbed the hell out of this rifle! The fouling was minimal and a second 10 minute application yielded a clean patch.

My beloved and often used .375 was next. It had received a "standard" cleaning. Same overnight test resulted in an extemely blue patch. Two more 10-15 minute applications took care of that.

My .458 is soaking right now. It's a notorious copper fouler, so it will also be a good test.

I am tracking the number and calibre of filled barrels. (Not the number of rifles cleaned.) It will be interesting to see how far it will go.

Overall, I must admit to being impressed with the product. Haven't tried the Flush Out or the Slicker yet, but will soon.

I am ordering more Wipe Out now so it will arrive before this can runs out!

Regards,

~Holmes

Regarding my previous post, to be fair each of my rifles took 2 to 4 applications to clean the first time, and the rifle I have cleaned the most is a 375 cal. So my experience with # of cleanings may not be the average.

I also noticed that after the first thorough cleaning, it only takes one application to clean the rifle completely. I have to wait a couple hours to ensure all of the copper is gone, but one application does it. (I tried a 10 min application after a range session, like the can said, and it only got the powder residue and maybe some of the carbon. 2 hours got the whole works).

FWIW,
Canuck

I got my two cans on Friday and went to work.

After covering my garage in foam, I finally figured out that a light tap on the button will fill up most of a 30-06 barrel, and you can just barely depress the button, and let it "splutter" until full if you didn't get the barrel full the first time. The "spluttering method worked fine to fill a Blackhawk 7 1/2 barrel without wasting the stuff.

Here's a tip for usage--try it out and let me know if it worked for you.

The plastic cone is too stiff to really seal the barrel, so I reasoned that a gasket is needed. I poked a hole in a 1 3/4# square patch and put it over the spray nozzle inside the cone. This worked great for barrels where the fat end of the cone will fit over the muzzle.

For larger calibers, reverse the cone on the can and poke a slightly larger hole on the patch. Put the patch over the cone so that it will perform as a gasket between the bore and the can.

I had zero problems with leakage by using the patch as a gasket.

Somebody try it out and let me know if this "gasket" thing works for you. I will try to post some pictures later.

Oh yeah, I like the stuff too.

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I know the next rifle will be perfect.......

NJ1MG,
Your patch gasket is a good idea. I have tried it, works well.

I also use a patch on a plastic bristle bore brush to plug the chamber end of the rifle when filling from the muzzle. It is not foolproof but works pretty well to keep foam from overflowing yet get the barrel full.

Great stuff.

If I recall, it was 470Mbogo who was the messenger? Thanks, 470Mbogo. I don't want to be without this stuff now.

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RAB

[This message has been edited by DaggaRon (edited 04-29-2002).]

Adios "tiger stripes"

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RAB

It feels good to know your barrel is squeeky clean, don't it?

I thought I'd share my technique for the keeping the stuff from overflowing into the chamber. I bought a box of medical examination gloves. They are dirt cheap. Anyway, I put a glove on my left hand and put my finger into the chamber while I am squirting the foam in the muzzle with my right hand. I then give the can an initial squirt, and then lightly sputter. I leave enough room around my finger for air to escape, but as soon as my finger feels foam I shove it in further to seal the bore. I then pull the can off the muzzle and only a little foam flows out the muzzle as it expands in the bore.

Its been working pretty good, and has definately reduced my spillage. You just have to make sure you are not still full-on squirting when the foam hits your finger.

Canuck

Excuse the double post, please.

[This message has been edited by DaggaRon (edited 04-29-2002).]

Canuck,
Another great idea. Thanks. A piece of the cuff from an exam glove or a fingertip cut off with a hole punched in the end could make a better muzzle gasket too. That gas escape at the chamber is important. Whatever works. "Try it! You'll like it!" ... so true.

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RAB

I have used the product for the last two years and found it to work very well, many times in a old or just purchased used rifle I have left the product in overnight with no harmfull effects except (do not let it come in contact with your stock if it is wood). It will mar the finish and will melt the finish in the bedding area. You will not have to scrub the bore at all, just follow the directions. For those of you looking for a quick fix for a hard to seal muzzle, listen to the tips from others that listed using a piece of tubing. I used a plastic tube from a water bottle that fit perfectly and spray only from the action it eliminates extra in the action area, which as previously mentioned is not good for wood stocked rifles.

I will give the tubes a go. And if one doesn't have quite the bore guide needed, how about cutting the case head off a piece of brass for the rifle and jamming/epoxying an arrow shaft or plastic tube into that to serve as a bore guide to inject foam into until it starts falling out of the muzzle.

Squirting from the breech instead of the muzzle does sound better.

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RAB

Harry

I didn't see Wipe-out on your webpage!!

Mike

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Victory Through Superior Firepower!

Hey Mike:
You might let the rest of us who,don't know what Harry's web address is.

P.S. I have used a foam earplug on the nozzle of a can of Wipeout real successfully. You punch a hole clear thru it and then slip it over the nozzle. When you are ready to apply, just squeeze the foam between your fingers, then slip it into the barrel and let it expand to fill the barrel. You get a tight fit and no gush back.

Guys, you wont get a response from Harry for a couple of weeks as he is in RSA hunting.
here is his web link.
http://www.hunters-hq.com/

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Happiness is a warm gun

Just back in town!1 Thanks for posting the link Mike....Thanks for letting us know he's In Africa too..

I may call them and see if somebody can be shipping it to me in his absence..

Mike

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Victory Through Superior Firepower!

JUST RETURNED FROM THE FIRST PRAIRIE DOG SHOOT OF THE SEASON. WENT TO GLENROCK WYOMING. BY COINCEDENCE NOSLER AND LEUPOLD WERE HAVING A COMPANY PRAIRIE DOG SHOOT. WIPE-OUT SAVED THE DAY .....ONE OF THE WRITERS HAD A "PLUGGED "220 SWIFT. IT WOULDN'T GROUP IN A WASH TUB. AT THE RANGE I SHOWED THEM HOW TO USE THE PRODUCT. (THE WRITER) A FAIRLY FAMOUS GUY....WHO HAD ONE HELL OF A DIRTY RIFLE. PUT IN THE FIRST SHOT OF WIPE-OUT......BLUE STARTED TO POUR OUT OF THE BARREL BEFORE I COULD LET OFF THE BUTTON. LOANED THIS GUY A RIFLE OF MINE....AND WE LEFT THE FOAM IN ALL DAY. WE MET FOR BREAKFAST IN DOWNTOWN GLENROCK. I PUSHED A PATCH THROUGH HIS BARREL AFTER BREAKFAST. PUT IN A SECOND APPLICATION AND IT CAME OUT PRETTY LIGHT. THE STORY IS ....HE MADE SOME INCREDIBLE AERIAL SHOTS WITH THAT SWIFT. HE TALKED ME OUT OF THE REST OF THAT CAN (I HAD ONE AS A SPARE). IT REALLY MADE HIS TRIP AS HE ONLY BROUGHT ONE GUN. THE PEOPLE FROM NOSLER WERE REALLY SUPER FOLKS AND WE HAD GOOD HOSPITALITY FROM RICHARD AND MARY CANNADY WHO RUN GLENROCK COMPONENTS. THEY HAVE WHAT YOU NEED TO SHOOT.....AND CAN TELL YOU WHERE TO GO.!

I've been cleaning several rifles for the past two weeks or so with Wipe-Out. A 22-243 Midd took the longest, 6 overnighters, at least one 30 minute for each overnigher and several 3-4 hour during that time also. That rifle had more copper than my wrist jangles. My 6MM-284 took 5 days and the same roundyroundies as the Midd and a 17 Rem took 4 days, samo-samo. A new 223 with about 100 rounds through it and a new 22-250 with about the same took 2 nights. I've just about used up one can, lots of white worms on both ends while getting the hang of it.

Both the 6mm-284, 17 Rem and 22-243 are pretty well gone over to the other side, but the 6mm did an .8 with 75 Vmaxs and H4831 yesterday. That's the smallest group it has shot from the beginning, which aint worth a damn, but at least it's going in the right direction. The load had a ES of 9 and SD of 5 but it was 300 fps slower than what it should have been and a grain more gave a stiff bolt, Whatup wi'dat? Something way out of whack there.

I settled on a short piece of 1/4" x 1" surgical tubing slipped over the can nozzle and pushed into the guide, a Stoney 25-30 cal rod guide, without the solvent port!!!!! and just a quick button push will fill a 28" barrel just fine. I ordered some o-ring guides also, they stick out farther and you can put a rag over the stock for protection and use the stock cone with a patch seal or just about anything handy will work. A short piece of 5/8" heater hose fits over the o-ring guides and the stock cone fits tightly inside if nothing else works (my Sinclair guides run 0.690" OD and 0.500" ID on the port end)

I had pulled the barrel on the 22-243 and was thinking about what other caliber I wanted to play with that I hadn't already, but decided to try the cleaning process to see if I could get a few more hundred rounds out of it. I screwed it back on and have the Ruger pillars curing in the stock now. A few more days will tell the tale.

I think this is great stuff. I won't give up my CR-10 or Sweets quite yet, and I won't drink my BBS because if it doesn't have a kick like Wild Turkey, Bacardi, or Everclear it aint worth messing with, but it does get out the black. I WILL quit using Mercury QuickSilver for doing carbon. Will miss the buzz though.

TRY IT, YOU'LL LIKE IT!!!!!

Makatak

Hey guys,
I have it in stock and ready to ship. Let me know if I can help. 817 267 3700.
Sure works on my rifles.
Oh...South Africa was wonderful. Took son on his first safari. He took, kudu, blesbok, blue wildebeest and springbok.
I improved on my impala, took a springbok too and one tough black wildebeest.
It was great hunting with my son and seeing his reactions to Africa.

I had and old mauser barrel that i took off a gun because I couldn't clean it over the last couple of years....

I put Wipe out in it, let it sit for 8 hours and man the dark blue crap came out..One more 4 hour application and its squeeky clean and won't discolor a patch....It just doesn't get any better than that.

Clean an old Winchester lever gun upside down. so the stuff runs out properly and bingo a new bore.

I call it "Instant Bore" now. As you can see I been out in the shop playing again. I still like Barnes CR-10 for a quick clean.