Im was wondering has anyone had a 470 mbogo made or had a cz 550 or ruger m77 converted into a 470 mbogo i am very interested in owning one to add to my collection.

www.470mbogo.com

and yes, and yes, and brno 602, and enfields

jeffe

Hi Capebuf,
The first 470 Mbogo was built on a Ruger 77 MK11. They have also been built on the Brno602 and CZ550 and as Jeff mentioned on the Enfield. The conversion from the CZ 550 - 416 Rigby is probably the easiest.
Take good care,
Dave

I bet the Washington State firm of Waffenfabrik Hein would build a fine one!
They built a .450 Dakota calibered rifle for me.
Same brass as 470 Mbogo, with a slightly trimmed down bullet. www.rifleactions.com

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The first 470 Mbogo was built on a Ruger 77 MK11.

And here's another picture of it in action...



Cheers,
Canuck

ps: Dave, Don has agreed to whack one of his buff with it too! We should get some great pics and vid for your website.

Good timing on the pic!!

Hi Chris
I'll be looking forward to the video. I wish I was going just to take the video.
Take good care,
Dave

Hi Big Five Jack
I think you will find that the 470 Mbogo brass has more capacity than the 450 Dakota. Take a look on my site at cartridge comparrisons and look at the difference between the 460 Weatherby and the 470 Mbogo. There is also a picture of the 416 Rigby, 450 Rigby and the 470 Mbogo side by side and I think your 450 Dakota is closer to the 450 Rigby.
Take good care,
Dave

I built two .470 Mbogo's, one on a CZ550 and the other on a 1917 Enfield. The CZ550 is far and away the easier and better choice. It's an excellent cartridge IMHO.-Rob

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Originally posted by 470 Mbogo:
Hi Chris
I'll be looking forward to the video. I wish I was going just to take the video.
Take good care,
Dave

By the way Dave..
Just about three years ago i sent you an email and asked you for the best recoilpad for a .460 Weath.Mag.
Your vote for the x-Mag was just about perfect!

My .460 WM is really controlable!

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Originally posted by 470 Mbogo:
Hi Chris
I'll be looking forward to the video. I wish I was going just to take the video.
Take good care,
Dave

Hey Dave,

You know it'd be great to have ya there, but man, its aweful pricey just to be a non-hunter. I just booked my flights today....from Calgary to Dar, return, is going to be $3500 CDN!!!!!! And I still can't get over the observer rates in Tanz!

Are you around this weekend? I'll give ya a call.

Cheers,
Chris

Hi Chris
I will be around but I am pulling the boat this weekend, probably Saturday morning. Try around noon and if I miss you I'll call you as soon as I get in.
Take care,
Dave

Sounds good Dave. I ain't going too far, unfortunately...still nursing my back.

Cheers,
Chris

For whoever may be interested, here is a short video clip of a member here (Smokey) shooting my 470 Mbogo last year. I don't think I have uploaded this here before...

Smokey shooting 470 Mbogo

The target is one of those 5 gal water cooler jugs.

Cheers,
Canuck

Canuck,

Thanks for posting the clip.

One of the things that surprised me about the various clips I have seen of the 470mbogo is that the muzzle rise is alot less that I expected it to be for that class of cartridge. The rapid fire clip(s) of Dave E. and others on his website are very impressive in this respect...!


Regards,
Dave

Hi David,

I believe that was the motivation for Dave E. putting all those vids up initially....to show that while it delivers awesome performance, it is a very manageable cartridge to shoot. Many people get freaked out by the 577 T-rex videos and think all such big bores are demons to shoot. The 470 Mbogo definitely kicks pretty hard, but it isn't nearly as bad as people conjure up in their imagination!

Cheers,
Canuck

Canuck,

Yeah, I hear you....some of Saeed's clips certainly scared me....

I really do like this cartridge..... the concepts behind it , how it was designed and what it has to offer for the hunter.

I am going to put one together using a cz550. I am having a cut rifle barrel made for it and will finalize my order next Monday.

Looking foward to your hunt report from Tanzania this Fall. Anxious hear some more results from the .470mbogo...!
Any special loads you are cooking up for Buffalo?

Regards,
Dave

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Any special loads you are cooking up for Buffalo?

Nothing too out of the ordinary. For softs I will be using the same load Dave used....500gr Swift A-frames at 2500fps.

I will also be taking 500gr Bridger FN solids. I haven't been able to work up a load for them yet (will wait til it warms up a little!), but with any luck I should be able to find one that prints in the same spot as the Swifts.

If an opportunity presents itself, I intend to try a frontal shot with the Bridger FNs and see what kind of penetration they get.

Cheers,
Canuck

Hi Chris
I have a load with the Bridger 540's at 2400 fps that shot to the same POI as the 500 grain Swift's at 100 yards. Maybe you can talk to John or try Neal Shirley (550 Mag). I think Neal is seling the Bridger line of bullets. Try www.custombrassandbullets.com If that isn't it give me a email and I'll find the site address for you. The link works so here is the page link http://www.custombrassandbullets.com/BridgerBullets.html They are now 550 (huge sectional density). The one John made for me have a .410 meplate and hit really hard.
Take good care,
Dave

Hey Dave,

I asked John about the 540s but he isn't making them anymore. When I was talking to him he was just making the 500s and he hooked me up with a good supply of them. IIRC, he was just getting back at it and his priority was to get stocked up with the more popular calibres/weights before messing around with the obscure ones again.

I see he's making 550 gr .475s now, and I find those very interesting. Not sure what the meplat is, but I wouldn't expect it is as large as that special run of 540s he made for you.

I am sure the 500s will do just fine though, so I'll just use what I have on hand.

Cheers,
Chris

I am sure a .475/500 grain FN or FP solid of either copper or brass will penetrate any game animal as deeply as needed in any situation.

I do not see the need for getting much over 0.300 sectional density. That is all that is needed with the correct flat nosed wide meplat solid and enough velocity.