Anyone know if Ruger will bring out "AFRICAN" (Walnut with 23" Barrel) model in 416Ruger?

There was something here not too long ago, I think, about the stocks splitting so they are only offering the hogue stock until they get it figured out.


I would think there's no reason why you couldn't re-stock the hogue model with some decent wood.

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Originally posted by big_foot:
I would think there's no reason why you couldn't re-stock the hogue model with some decent wood.

That wont grow the barrel.

Best bet is to build one ... rebarrel a 375 African, shift over all the sights and match the contour. reinforce the stock like for any other 416cal.
Cheers...
Con

Con
thats exactley what i would be doing , getting a 375 Ruger and just putting a good 416 barrel on it, except i have gone for a full custom job , and it should be here in the next mounth or so
PS is the big bore shoot on this year
Daniel

I like the 20" 416 Ruger barrel just the way it is and 2350fps for a 400gr bullet is plenty fast enough for anything on the planet. Nothing wrong with throwing a stick of wood on it to see how well it balances etc.

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Originally posted by big_foot:
There was something here not too long ago, I think, about the stocks splitting so they are only offering the hogue stock until they get it figured out.
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What's there to figure out... Crossbolts, barrel recoil lug, and your bedding compound of choice???

Maybe I should apply for a job at Ruger?

Oh, wait a minute, doing those things I suggested would require more effort and a higher price per unit. Even though it would work right the first time if done correctly.

Hell, we can't have that! What was I thinking??

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Originally posted by M 98:
Con
thats exactley what i would be doing , getting a 375 Ruger and just putting a good 416 barrel on it, except i have gone for a full custom job , and it should be here in the next mounth or so
PS is the big bore shoot on this year
Daniel

Yes it will be, good variety of big bore as well.

I'll have my 416 Ruger there built in a vangaurd action,it's an extremely accurate push feed rifle. My 458 AccRel cut down to 21.5 inches, 500 AccRel and with any sort of luck my 600 OverKill should be finished by then. I might even have another 458 Wildcat by then as well,.

Con will have his 458 B&M and 458 AccRel and maybe another something special..

Last weekend in MAY I think.

regards
S&F

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Originally posted by TwoZero:

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Originally posted by big_foot:
There was something here not too long ago, I think, about the stocks splitting so they are only offering the hogue stock until they get it figured out.
...

What's there to figure out... Crossbolts, barrel recoil lug, and your bedding compound of choice???

Maybe I should apply for a job at Ruger?

Oh, wait a minute, doing those things I suggested would require more effort and a higher price per unit. Even though it would work right the first time if done correctly.

Hell, we can't have that! What was I thinking??

you are correct, in that a couple journeymen gunstock bedders would improve the product.

as for ruger's performance .. one might look at the company's value since the Ruger familiy exited the management team

here's a shortcut
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=RGR

has for cutting cost, seriously? have you looked at the changes an developments from ruger?
new hawkeye - taken much feedback from the industry
the ruger "ar", taking old bill's concepts and turning them into functioning rifles
416 ruger
375 ruger
the RCMS

and dropping some dogs, that didn't pay for their production lines

as well as pine hill casting - THE premier casting company in this country, lilkely the world

yeah, professional BUSINESS management .. that's the difference between kimber of X, Y, or Z, and, say, ruger ..

not just bean counting ..as its easy to make a cheap product, that no one wants... not head count reduction ... its easy to starve a business to death ...

but run a business on some simple questions and facts
what's our target profit margin
are we making it?
can we make it, now, without raising price
what models don't make a profit
do we have to keep them
what can be done to reduce cost before raising price
do we have the right people in the right jobs
can we reallocate people internally/change production staffing
do we have too many "head office" people, or not enough?
what is our debt load, and plan for closing those debt facilities

and a couple more, but reading ducker's management will give one an inadequete, but functioning, concept of what professional business management is supposed to do

Right on Jeffe Bill was a great man who may have hung around a bit too long. (like so many others)

Several lengthy discussions on this subject over on the 'Fire.
As some have mentioned, cross-bolts, barrel lug and proper bedding would go a long way to solve the stocking issue, alebit drive the cost up. "Growing" the barrel is the easy, and least costly part of the ".416 Ruger African equation".

In the mean time, some of use have built the (.416 Rugers) on M700s and M70s.

thanks Mikel

2barrels - my 416 AR is essentially the same thing, and obviated by the 416 ruger .. like the 416 taylor, all three fit in a standard action - and have been built on everything one can imagine a .532 3.34" case being built on ...