I have a cz 550 .505 gibbs coming to the house soon and bought a leupold vx6hd 4-24x52mm for its arrival. I was looking for some recommendations for some strong scope rings that will keep that scope from becoming a dangerous projectile.

CZ rings will work fine, they are on my AHR CZ550 in .500AHR.
I'd worry more about that scope surviving the .505 Gibbs.....not likely to use 24x too often either.

EDIT: neglected to mention that my scope on the .500 is a Leupold M8 2.5x Compact

One of the laws of nature which it does not pay to ignore is that of inertia. A 4-24X scope has no business on a .505 Gibbs. My .505 is fitted with a Leupold Vari-X III 1.5-5X scope, and I worry sometimes that even that might be too heavy. I will probably end up with a fixed power 2 1/2X scope which will allow the lowest possible mounting and provide the least resistance to recoil. My Gibbs is fitted with Smithson mounts, which work perfectly in my opinion and allow easy access to both receiver sights and the traditional open sights.

Before you mount that on a .505, send it back and get a MUCH lighter scope. I just put a Leupold fixed 3x "Big Bore" from the Custom Shop on my .505. Mounted in factory CZ rings. So far, it's held up, but only a handful of rounds since mounting, ~20.

Great choice mancannon I love my 3x

XAUSA.....nice looking .505

The best you will find for a CZ are the ones made by Alaska Arms. They are very well machined and heat treated.

Jeremy

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Originally posted by Redstone:
XAUSA.....nice looking .505

Double +1

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Originally posted by Redstone:
....not likely to use 24x too often either.

That was my first thought...it isn't like you are going to shoot LR with that rifle.

I agree with the posts above. That 24x scope will not be practical at all considering the .505 ballistics and you will have problems with inertia. I used to run a Leupold 2.5 on mine but now it has a Skinner Peep on the rear flat and on the front is a Delta Point Pro red dot on a custom QD base made by Wayne at American Hunting Rifles. 1/2 turn from off to locked tight! Good luck!

If I wanted to pay four figures for the best mounts,
I would do like xausa: Smithson.
A close second in that price range would be German Claw mounts.

But I would rather pay two figures and get the strongest alternative not requiring custom gunsmithing: OEM CZ standard rings.
Torque the main mounting screws to 65 inch-pounds,
and check those screws and the ringtop screws after every 20 shots or thereabouts.

The 4-24x52mm Leupold on a .505 Gibbs? Surely you jest.
That would be some clowning fit for Walter, court jester.
If a .505 Gibbs Blaser becomes available, he would scope it like that.

Rip ...

What I'd give to be a fly in the corner

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Originally posted by xausa:
One of the laws of nature which it does not pay to ignore is that of inertia. A 4-24X scope has no business on a .505 Gibbs. My .505 is fitted with a Leupold Vari-X III 1.5-5X scope, and I worry sometimes that even that might be too heavy. I will probably end up with a fixed power 2 1/2X scope which will allow the lowest possible mounting and provide the least resistance to recoil. My Gibbs is fitted with Smithson mounts, which work perfectly in my opinion and allow easy access to both receiver sights and the traditional open sights.

+1 I have the same scope on my 500 Jeffery, 500 plus full power rounds through it. I use Talley Steel QR rings.

Strange choice of scope for a 505. Imagine the eye relief quite small. For a gun that will literally fly out of your hands if you don’t hold tight with proper technique I can’t imagine why. I used Alaska arms on my 458 Lott and think they would work well on a 505 with appropriate optic. I have been mulling scope options myself o

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Originally posted by gunslinger55:
Strange choice of scope for a 505. Imagine the eye relief quite small. For a gun that will literally fly out of your hands if you don’t hold tight with proper technique I can’t imagine why. I used Alaska arms on my 458 Lott and think they would work well on a 505 with appropriate optic. I have been mulling scope options myself o

Leupold finds the eye relief at the low setting to be 114mm (4.5") and 94mm at the high (3.7"). My wildcat .505 SRE weighs a good deal less than this rifle, but duplicates its performance. It has certainly never come close to "flying out" of my hands.

Well sir you have good shooting technique like I mentioned. Shooting off sticks and if you get complacent I have had mine jump around pretty good. I not a small guy either and I find I really have to lean into it and get a good stance and grip to shoot effectively. In fact I smashed a finger and cut it getting sloppy at a safari shoot from the trigger guard. Maybe I am not very good but my 505 is no joke on recoil compared to my other big bores. I was trying to infer that maybe a high powered low eye relief scope was maybe not an ideal setup but to each their own. Leupold generally has good eye relief though. That’s my 2 cents

I could not imagine shooting a 505 with no recoil pad. I have a pretty soft one and it still causes bruising and soreness. A steel buttplate would be downright scary. Hats off to you that must be intense

The buttplate is actually rubber, but not a recoil pad. I have never shot that rifle, or any heavy recoiling rifle, off shooting sticks. I do all my practice with reduced loads and in the heat of the moment, shooting at game, I never notice recoil, probably because I'm not braced against it. The rifle weighs 8 3/4 pounds and the cartridge propels a 570 grain bullet at 2150 fps.

I am 5'8" and weigh around 160 pounds. My thought is that larger hunters suffer more than I under the effects of recoil.

I emptied my magazine (four shots) into this guy as he ran by. All hit him where aimed, in the shoulder.

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am 5'8" and weigh around 160 pounds. My thought is that larger hunters suffer more than I under the effects of recoil

The late Jacky Hamman was under 5’5” and shot a .577...

All it takes is practice. 4 shots of 505 that buff took some killing

Super nice Buff though from the looks of it. Your theory of practicing with reduced loads seems to be a valid one as I have never done that. Something to think about. I gave up on sticks as you can’t hold onto rifle very well and really jumps although In theory should be better than offhand for an accurate shot

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Originally posted by gunslinger55:
All it takes is practice. 4 shots of 505 that buff took some killing

I didn't pause between shots to see if they were having an effect. I just kept shooting until he went down. I had no urge to follow up a wounded buffalo. He went down so hard that his nose ploughed up the ground.

Reduced loads can be really economical if you use hard cast bullets. A load of AA 5744 consisting of 40% of the weight of the powder charge which fills the case up to the base of the bullet gives good accuracy and quite bearable recoil.

I don't trust a 505 with any scope, but if push came to shove I would only use a 2.5 fixed Leupold compact on a big recoiling rifle..I used talley rings and bases and they worked, Torx and lock tite or glass bedding compound..It was a a 7 lb gun and when it parted my glasses on my nose I went iron and never looked back..I also dumped that gun pronto.

I much prefer a receiver sight or shallow V on a 505 or anything over a 416 whatever caliber..To start with shots with those big bores or short range and mostly under 100 yards but a top line hold at 200, maybe up to 300 ydsm depending on how one zeros his rifle, seems to lob one in on a buffalo bull with a 3" high at 100 yards..not recommended and mostly not allowed by the better PHs

I have a tape one of my clients sent me of his group shooting a buffalo 13 times with a 500 N.E. and a 470..Another with a 9 shots...Its an amazing tape..I guess when that first shot fails that 50 gallons of Kypton sent flowing thru the veins makes Duggy Boy a bad boy..Ive had and seen some exciting experiences with buffalo but nothing like that..It wasn't pretty, it was disgusting..

Leupold VH6 HD 4-24x52mm on a .505 Gibbs?!?!?!

The prairie dogs must be pretty damned big and dangerous where you live!

Prairie dogs and jack rabbits are great for practicing shooting offhand with a 500

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Originally posted by steel:
I have a cz 550 .505 gibbs coming to the house soon and bought a leupold vx6hd 4-24x52mm for its arrival. I was looking for some recommendations for some strong scope rings that will keep that scope from becoming a dangerous projectile.

You don't suppose there is a small Bullshit factor in this post?

I think we are being trolled!
The poster hasn’t responded , and imo no one in there right mind would consider such a scope for such a rifle.

Could be WR, steel's profile is a bit sparse, initial questions with little further response.

Maybe it is Walter, just stirring the possum to keep interest.

If not, I'm with xausa, RIP and Ray. I'd be writing to Leupold, asking if they could make me a 2.5x scope like the one they sent Ray Atkinson, which I bet had some kind of reticle-movement, maybe along the Pecar Champion line.

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Originally posted by WR500:
I think we are being trolled!
The poster hasn’t responded , and imo no one in there right mind would consider such a scope for such a rifle.

Yep. I think so.

Just like the post a few months back when the then OP asked "Is the 375 STILL adequate for buffalo".

I wouldn't be surprised, but I have no doubt that someone would do such a thing, stranger things have happened in the hunting world, I mean last Saturday I saw a guy on TV with a big 30 caliber and I mean the big one, a 6 to 24 scope as I recall, and he shot his Texas Whitetail at 75 yards out of a blind that had a built in bench rest!! Ive seen blinds in Texas with a bar in a hot tub and help in white jackets mixing drinks and serving Bar B Que and a rifle in his bench rest and the shooter sucking on a cold Lone Star..but what the hell, Id like to hunt there once anyway, just for the beer and Bar B Que, no need for a rifle.

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
I wouldn't be surprised, but I have no doubt that someone would do such a thing, stranger things have happened in the hunting world, I mean last Saturday I saw a guy on TV with a big 30 caliber and I mean the big one, a 6 to 24 scope as I recall, and he shot his Texas Whitetail at 75 yards out of a blind that had a built in bench rest!! Ive seen blinds in Texas with a bar in a hot tub and help in white jackets mixing drinks and serving Bar B Que and a rifle in his bench rest and the shooter sucking on a cold Lone Star..but what the hell, Id like to hunt there once anyway, just for the beer and Bar B Que, no need for a rifle.

Bar and a hot tub! Not my style of hunting but after sitting out in a cold rain for four days glassing brown bears in Alaska I can see how that might start being attractive

Im Sure it would be nice chuck, just leave the gun at home and sleep in the blind, they have electric lights and bet an air conditioner in that hot humid country...What a way to spend a weekend eating and drinking and photographing those protein deer.. and I wouldn't mind taking home a few head shot cull does for the freezer, those Texas Hill Country deer are the best wild meat in the world, mild and tender..