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opinion of proper weight for a 375 H&H ?
27 December 2008, 08:27
Ezra4570opinion of proper weight for a 375 H&H ?
Mine (custom Brockman) with 1.5x5 Leupold weighs 10.2 lbs. That seems heavy to me, but well balanced. What do you think is the right weight for a 375 H&H?
27 December 2008, 08:38
JPKImo, roughly 8 3/4lbs to 9 1/2lbs with a scope. That would be between 8lbs and 8 3/4lbs bare depending on the scope.
Mine weighs 8 1/2lbs bare, 9 1/4 with a Leopold 1.5x5x20 and just shy of 9 1/2lbs with a Shcmidt & Bender 1.1x4x24. It isn't too heavy but could loose another half pound. Recoil isn't much. If this much rifle is new to you, you can easily become accustomed to the recoil at 8 1/2lbs. just try shooting a handful of 12ga slugs and the 375H&H will be a pussy cat in comparisson.
My 458wm weighs in at 10 1/2lbs, and it is as heavy as I would want it.
JPK

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27 December 2008, 13:53
JBrownThe 375 that I have used the most weighs 8 1/2 pounds with scope. I really like this weight and don't see any reason to go heavier.
Jason
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Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.
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27 December 2008, 16:13
ConTotally agree with the above two posters. Cheers...
Con
27 December 2008, 16:17
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by Ezra4570:
Mine (custom Brockman) with 1.5x5 Leupold weighs 10.2 lbs. That seems heavy to me, but well balanced. What do you think is the right weight for a 375 H&H?
at 10.2, that has to be a joy to shoot. imho, thats at least 1.2 lbs more than it HAS to be
27 December 2008, 17:54
BuliwyfThe KEY phrase is "well balanced". Balance is everything. I use shooting sticks quite a bit and really appreciate the little extra muzzle weight.
I would say an ideal theoretical weight including scope and sling for .375 H&H or .416 Remington would be just under 10 lbs. Wood density or synthetic stock weight plays a role in balance.
27 December 2008, 18:52
Ezra4570OK, for those of you that mentioned your 375's weighing around 8.5 lbs what make are they?
27 December 2008, 19:48
chuck375My CZ Safari Classic in 375 H&H weighs in at 10.25 lbs without scope or sling. Balanced nicely but a bit on the heavy side. I had no problem carrying it a 10,500 feet elevation elk hunting this year. Recoil is soft ...

Chuck
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28 December 2008, 00:52
JPennMy Dakota comes in at 10.2 ready to go, 1.5 to 5 Leupold, leather sling, 4 rounds. The balance and fit are good for me, so it handles like a good shotgun, carrying it has not been a problem so far, soft recoil.
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28 December 2008, 06:36
jetdrvrMy Mod 70 is identical in weight. A real pussycat.
28 December 2008, 07:31
458WinThe proper weight of any rifle depends on who is carrying it and how far it has to be carried.
Recoil lasts but a fraction of a second while gravity goes on forever.
Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship
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JPKMy 8 1/2lbs bare rifle is a Dakota M76. Four down magazine. 23" barrel, 1/4 rib.
Here is a photo.
IMO, the stock could be trimmer, especially thae forend which could be slimmer and shorter.
Hope this helps.
JPK

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28 December 2008, 09:22
Strut108 or 8 1/2 lbs. scoped would be a joy to carry So long as the fit and balance were good, it should not be too rough on the shooter.
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28 December 2008, 11:50
Woodrow SMy model 70 Safari Classic 375 H&H with a 2x7 Leupold and nice figured walnut stock weighs in at 9.5 lbs and handles well with good balance.
I also have a Match Grade Arms in 375 H&H with a 24" bbl plus brake and 3x9 Leupold with a Kevlar stock. Shoots and handles very nice at 7 lbs ready to go. The brake does a very nice job of cutting the recoil.
The right combo depends on how far you are going to carry it and under what circumstances. The above 2 rifles cover both Africa and Alaska.
28 December 2008, 19:00
jstevens9 to 9.5 pounds feels about right to me ina .375. These will have just a bit of muzzle weight to shoot well offhand, just the way I like them, heavy enough to be pleasant to shoot if they fit.
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29 December 2008, 05:50
JBrownquote:
Originally posted by Ezra4570:
OK, for those of you that mentioned your 375's weighing around 8.5 lbs what make are they?
Old Sako built back when they were still using the FN action(mauser copy). Its muzzle diameter is .580".
I would not listen to those who would speak of having their 375s and 416s weigh the same. The 375 is not in the same ballpark as the 416s recoil-wise.
Jason
Jason
"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________
Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.
Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.
-Jason Brown
29 December 2008, 06:23
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by 458Win:
The proper weight of any rifle depends on who is carrying it and how far it has to be carried.
Recoil lasts but a fraction of a second while gravity goes on forever.
that has very little to do with it, or, as a direct result.. if it had ANY truth, everyone would have 8# unbraked 50 BMGs or 4# 30-06
The rifle should have enough weight to keep one from developing a flinch; or to shoot properly; or to have enough weight to balance
a rifle too light for proper shooting will induce a flinch like few other things can, short of scope in the eye.. that takes about 4 months of training
All that being said, a 375 has TRIVIAL recoil, as compared to the other big bores, and here is one's chance to have an excellent weight rifle.
29 December 2008, 06:52
Thebear_78My last 375 only weighed 6lbs 4oz bare and just over 7lbs with a scope. that was about perferct for a walk around hunting rifle. Recoil wasn't a problem from hunting positions and with a past pad bench work could be done too. My next 375 is going to be a 375 RUM and I'm aiming for 8-8.5 lbs scoped. I agree with PHil on this one, recoil is temperary gravity permanent, try carrying a 10+ lb rifle up over 3k feet it gets old fast. Even my 458 Lott only weighed 10 lbs.
29 December 2008, 06:58
Idaho SharpshooterI think circumstances dictate the weight. A 375 for Africa can be a 10lb rifle, since one of the trackers will carry it most of the time. Here, if it goes in a scabbard on a horse, the same. Where I have to pack it all day, an 8lb rifle is less of a load, but I do not think I need a 375 for anything here but Big Bears. 8lb 300Holland, or WM.
Rich
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29 December 2008, 08:01
himmelrrMy 375HH (Rem 700 CDL) ended up at 8 3/4 lbs - as pictured with 3 rounds. It is a joy to shoot. If I were to rebuild, it would be the same.
RH
29 December 2008, 08:33
Michael RobinsonRight about 9.5-10 lbs., scoped and loaded.
Mike
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29 December 2008, 09:21
Frostbitquote:
Originally posted by Ezra4570:
OK, for those of you that mentioned your 375's weighing around 8.5 lbs what make are they?
This is 8 1/2 with a VXIII 1.5-5 unloaded without sling.
Hoffman Arms with pre-64 M-70 and custom Turkish Walnut stock.
29 December 2008, 09:25
vapodogquote:
Originally posted by JBrown:
The 375 that I have used the most weighs 8 1/2 pounds with scope. I really like this weight and don't see any reason to go heavier.
Jason

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29 December 2008, 09:52
JPKquote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
I think circumstances dictate the weight. A 375 for Africa can be a 10lb rifle, since one of the trackers will carry it most of the time. Here, if it goes in a scabbard on a horse, the same. Where I have to pack it all day, an 8lb rifle is less of a load, but I do not think I need a 375 for anything here but Big Bears. 8lb 300Holland, or WM.
Rich
Buffalo Killer
This is not so. Your experience and the terrain you hunted were unussual, and not typical.
JPK

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30 December 2008, 20:32
BlacktailerAs with so many things, it depends... To me any rifle that you are going to carry for extended periods of time shouldn't weigh much more than 9 lbs but that's my experience. My M70 with synthetic stock weighs about that and I have carried it all day long in Africa without problems except when I had to wrestle it away from one of the trackers who thought he should carry it.

As stated by others, the old H&H kicks, but not too much, so it doesn't need to be awfully heavy but if you are recoil shy like me and don't mind carrying a 12lb rifle, go ahead. On the other hand some like a really light rifle and don't mind a little extra recoil so go that way. Bottom line, there aint no set rule except what fits your circumstances.
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