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Throw away the old ones. ------------------------------- Will Stewart / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor Member, GOA, N.A.G.R. _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ Hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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My experience was yes they foul a bit more than most cup and core bullets but otherwise I never had a problem in my bolt guns including my 416 Weatherby. Just don't use starting loads intended for cup and core bullets or even the banded variety. Start a bit lower and as always work up slowly. NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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+1  As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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They have a reputation for fouling bores and veering off course in game animals. Practice buulets only in my opinion. 465H&H | |||
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Listen Pal (Michael.0458), If I want to shoot around corners, these are the bullets to do it with!  NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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Do you have a good slingshot handy? Respects, Phill | |||
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Good idea, Bill. I've got some of them laying around that need that treatment. Just haven't done it. | |||
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Could they be chucked up in a lathe and some bands cut in them? I have a bunch of these too and was wondering what to do with them as well. | |||
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If you are going to throw them away throw them at me. I chuck them in a lathe and add the grooves. It works quite well. I even ground a multi- groove tool for the job. I have a lot of old Barnes .474's. They shoot well in my .470 NE once you remove the blue wax and groove them. I have also done .416's.....Tom SCI lifer NRA Patron DRSS DSC | |||
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I shoot them all the time in my .450 Dakota. Amazing accuracy and no fouling problems. Blake | |||
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Always nice to here reliable information from a very trusted source. Thanks for the heads up Blake. I'll load them and shoot em!  | |||
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They do take up a lot more powder space than lead cored solids. Not a problem in a 416 Rigby but could cost you some velocity in a 416 Remington. I got excellent accuracy and penetration (in a straight line) with them in the Rigby. In a 458 Win. they performed well but I had to compress the loads so much I had to run the loaded rounds back into the sizing die because the brass was swollen. The long hard bearing surface will also spike your pressure. NRA Endowment Member DRSS | |||
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