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14 September 2011, 19:56

CCMDoc

quote:
Originally posted by DUKE NUKEM:
I have 200 Vintage .416 Barnes Solids and was wondering if these will be a problem w/o any grooves? Fouling?
TIA,
Duke

My experience was yes they foul a bit more than most cup and core bullets but otherwise I never had a problem in my bolt guns including my 416 Weatherby.

Just don't use starting loads intended for cup and core bullets or even the banded variety. Start a bit lower and as always work up slowly.

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14 September 2011, 20:44

ramrod340

quote:
Just don't use starting loads intended for cup and core bullets or even the banded variety.

14 September 2011, 21:20

465H&H

They have a reputation for fouling bores and veering off course in game animals. Practice buulets only in my opinion.

465H&H

14 September 2011, 22:36

michael458

quote:
Originally posted by 465H&H:
They have a reputation for fouling bores and veering off course in game animals. Practice bullets only in my opinion.

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15 September 2011, 01:42

CCMDoc

quote:
Originally posted by michael458:
quote:
Originally posted by 465H&H:
They have a reputation for fouling bores and veering off course in game animals. Practice bullets only in my opinion.

465H&H

Listen Pal (Michael.0458),

If I want to shoot around corners, these are the bullets to do it with!

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15 September 2011, 03:42

WHITE HUNTER BLACK HEART

Do you have a good slingshot handy?

Respects,

Phill

16 September 2011, 06:01

AfricanHunter

quote:
Originally posted by Will:
Throw away the old ones.

Good idea, Bill.

I've got some of them laying around that need that treatment. Just haven't done it.

16 September 2011, 21:39

Huvius

Could they be chucked up in a lathe and some bands cut in them?
I have a bunch of these too and was wondering what to do with them as well.

16 September 2011, 22:31

Tapper2

If you are going to throw them away throw them at me. I chuck them in a lathe and add the grooves. It works quite well. I even ground a multi- groove tool for the job. I have a lot of old Barnes .474's. They shoot well in my .470 NE once you remove the blue wax and groove them. I have also done .416's.....Tom

17 September 2011, 05:54

Blake7062

I shoot them all the time in my .450 Dakota. Amazing accuracy and no fouling problems.

Blake

17 September 2011, 06:27

DUKE NUKEM

quote:
Originally posted by Blake7062:
I shoot them all the time in my .450 Dakota. Amazing accuracy and no fouling problems.

Blake

Always nice to here reliable information from a very trusted source. Thanks for the heads up Blake. I'll load them and shoot em!

18 September 2011, 06:09

BayouBob

They do take up a lot more powder space than lead cored solids. Not a problem in a 416 Rigby but could cost you some velocity in a 416 Remington. I got excellent accuracy and penetration (in a straight line) with them in the Rigby. In a 458 Win. they performed well but I had to compress the loads so much I had to run the loaded rounds back into the sizing die because the brass was swollen. The long hard bearing surface will also spike your pressure.