Have heard many comments around the web stating that the 500 S&W revolver is adequate for buffalo and such. Assuming this is true, how about a 50 Beowulf? The 50 Bewoulf duplicates the 500 S&W's ballistics in a light handy rifle.

Not for me ...... way too light.

the assumption is false... the 500Sw is not more acceptable than a 12 slug for buffalo, though both have killed them

get a real big bore, scott ... after all, with you owning a 500 AHR (snicker) and a 416 rigby RSM (LMAO) and even a 405 that YOU can load to 2200FPS with a 400gr bullet (yeah.. ONCE)...

then why would you be pimping a girls rifle in an ar15 platform? Besides, you can't take your AR15 500 blowhard to ANY african country, as it is a semi

if it's not .375+ and 4000ft/lb capable with a +.300 SD bullet, it is not a bigbore

it's just boring

Jeffeosso,

CZ527 chambered in 50 Beowulf. That you CAN take to Africa.

I would guess the comment was refering to bison rather than cape buffalo. I have a 500 Linebaugh and while I'm sure it is up to the task, that doesn't make it smart.

Ross Seyfied took a cape buffalo with his 500 or 475 Linebaugh and admitted afterward it was one of the less-bright things he did in life.

I am almost certain that Ross took his Cape Buffalo with a Heavy loaded 45 Colt.I don't recall him saying that the feat was less than smart,but I will ask him the next time that I speak with him..
I have seen quite a few Bison taken with Handguns 5 Shot revolvers in 45 Colt, 454,475,500 JRH,and 500 Libebaugh without ANY PROBLEMS what so ever...

The picture below shows a Bison that I took with the 500 Linebaugh and a 525 Grain WLFN hardcast bullet at 1120 FPS. Only one shot was required and the bullet exited the Animal

of course just actually buying a cz in 458 lott and shooting it is cheaper than building up a 50 blowhard

but scott, YOUR 50 beowolf was an ar, ,wasn't it?


great quote from ross, harry

Jeff,

Not if there is a CZ527 setting on the used rack in a gunshop already barreled/chambered in 50 Beowulf.

How would you know about hunting buffalo, any buffalo, anyway. You shoot anything bigger than little Texas whitetails and feral Texas pigs?

tiggertate,

How many cape buffalo, bison, and water buffalo have you shot? Just curious, and it will help me understand just how much weight I should place upon your opinion.

trollin' trollin' trollin'
keep that bullshit rollin'

Andy,
you are right.. i'll leave the troll alone...

jeffe

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Originally posted by ScottS:
Have heard many comments around the web stating that the 500 S&W revolver is adequate for buffalo and such.

Who made that asinine statement?

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Originally posted by ScottS:
Jeff,

Not if there is a CZ527 setting on the used rack in a gunshop already barreled/chambered in 50 Beowulf.

How would you know about hunting buffalo, any buffalo, anyway. You shoot anything bigger than little Texas whitetails and feral Texas pigs?

tiggertate,

How many cape buffalo, bison, and water buffalo have you shot? Just curious, and it will help me understand just how much weight I should place upon your opinion.

ScottS,

I say go for it. Two things that would make this idea even neater. One, get a video of the PH's face when you tell him what you brought to hunt nyati with. Two, make sure to have the hunt videoed I think it might make for some interesting footage.

And yes, I have have hunted buffalo, but I forgot the Beowulf and had to use a .416 Rigby.

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Originally posted by 500grains:

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Originally posted by ScottS:
Have heard many comments around the web stating that the 500 S&W revolver is adequate for buffalo and such.

Who made that asinine statement?

we are in accord here

ScottS- Go for it! I'll back you up! You may have to duck as I shoot pretty fast!-Rob

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Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
ScottS- Go for it! I'll back you up! You may have to duck as I shoot pretty fast!-Rob

T'is true.. seen it.. heard it.. double tap with a 458 lott CZ O/U (he chambered it) sounded like a burp gun, that "wee texas piggie" aka, 200# boar, had TWO holes in him.. shoulder and right in the ear...

shoots fast and shoots well, that's rob!

Any one know how to contact Ross Seyfred? He did an interesting piece on the .458 Lott a few years back. In that work he promised to " find the ballistic truth to the .458 Lott " Having the .458 lott and the .458WM as well there are a lot ( no pun intended ) of unanswered questions alluded to by Ross Seyfred in his tome that I don't think have been explained to this day. I am not trying to hyjack the thread but the mention of Seyfreds' name re-kindled the question about the ballistic truth of the Lott. Besides the thread appeared to be fraying. Respectfully, Dr.C

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Originally posted by jwp475:
I am almost certain that Ross took his Cape Buffalo with a Heavy loaded 45 Colt.I don't recall him saying that the feat was less than smart,but I will ask him the next time that I speak with him..
I have seen quite a few Bison taken with Handguns 5 Shot revolvers in 45 Colt, 454,475,500 JRH,and 500 Libebaugh without ANY PROBLEMS what so ever...

The picture below shows a Bison that I took with the 500 Linebaugh and a 525 Grain WLFN hardcast bullet at 1120 FPS. Only one shot was required and the bullet exited the Animal

Those words were my interpretation of something a a little less blunt in the article. He was describing the stalk, how close he had to get to make the shot he wanted and how he didn't think it would be repeated anytime soon since he had proved the point. Maybe today he has a different attitude about it or maybe all that was just writer's embellishment to make a better reading article. Either way it was a great story.

As far as caliber, I think it was the 500 when he first started working with it. I seem to rememeber a later article where he commented that he wished he had shot the buff with a 475 because by then he decided it had better penetration than the 500. But it was long time ago and I could be mixing more than one memory.

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tiggertate,

How many cape buffalo, bison, and water buffalo have you shot? Just curious, and it will help me understand just how much weight I should place upon your opinion.

You should put exactly as much weight on my opinion as do do on yours. Of course, you could share your intended buffalo load with the forum and then maybe the real buffalo hunters could advise you accordingly.

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trollin' trollin' trollin'
keep that bullshit rollin'

ROFLMAO!

I stand corrected on the Seyfried article; it was a hot loaded 45 Colt, not a Linebaugh. I suggest ScottS therefore build a CZ527 in 45 Colt and go buff hunting. We could use a resident expert in that sport.

LOL..Harry, I think he could do a 458 socom bolt gun!!! just get a 7.62x39 CA and screw a barrel in....

i have shot at least as many buffalo as scott... buffalo... not bison.. i have passed MANY shots at cattle er livestock .. er bison, and actually HUNTED boars.... though I have been known to be party to a bison meat recovery mission! (or blackbuck does) when I get the chance


here's a couple of the bigbores *I* have shot (my and my friends rifles)... and other than the last 3, they are all acceptable BUFFALO rifles...

A lever action 45/70 is an acceptable Buffalo rifle?

Woah waittaminute, Jeffeosso, what is the manufacture of that 9.3x57? Very attractive lineup of fine firearms there, but that 9.3 caught my eye.

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Originally posted by Tex21:
A lever action 45/70 is an acceptable Buffalo rifle?

I think he said and other than the last 3, they are all acceptable BUFFALO rifles....

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Originally posted by The Metalsmith:
Woah waittaminute, Jeffeosso, what is the manufacture of that 9.3x57? Very attractive lineup of fine firearms there, but that 9.3 caught my eye.

That is a Model 46 Husqvarna, MS. Really nice guns and still around $400 for a clean one.

while the 9,3, the 458 socom and the 45/70 COULD kill a bision easy, I wouldn't want those to be a primary on a buffalo

THanks Harry, I forgot which model the 9,3 was.. that is Rocky's

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
LOL..Harry, I think he could do a 458 socom bolt gun!!! just get a 7.62x39 CA and screw a barrel in....

i have shot at least as many buffalo as scott... buffalo... not bison.. i have passed MANY shots at cattle er livestock .. er bison, and actually HUNTED boars.... though I have been known to be party to a bison meat recovery mission! (or blackbuck does) when I get the chance


here's a couple of the bigbores *I* have shot (my and my friends rifles)... and other than the last 3, they are all acceptable BUFFALO rifles...

I never get tired of that pic! Man alive!! Is that ever a lot of firepower!!!!!!