I picked this up on a whim not that I need it and may pass it on it’s a high quality build with nice wood no marks on it with some interesting features. Not a fan of the scope mount but that can be fixed. If someone helps me load up some pics maybe we can get to the bottom of it. It has griffin and Howe like features but pretty sure it isn’t one (price for one lol). Only marking are the Mauser ones and .458 win on the barrel. Feels like weight added in stock, decelerator pad and lever non hinged floor plate. It has an island 3 leaf with no standing leaf just all folding and not marked. No cross bolts. Very griifin and howish wood stock. Holds 3 down. Anyhow I’d be interested in comments from the esteemed big bore aficionados on here.
I am not able to post pics but can forward to a individual if they want to post them
to my eye, it looks like a late 90s, early 2000s american build, it might have been spendy, but it leverages some nice parts
looks like a dakota quarterrib, necg banded front sight, barrel band sling mount , fisher grip cap, "retro" rear sling mount, not my favorite shape cheek piece, i don't recall who was the last seller of the floor plate lever, but brownell's and others sold it, IDK on the safety ...
in that stock, the irons will be difficult to shoot well, due to straight stock, which is optimized for the scope - and, again, just my tastes, the grip is too closed .. follow the checkering border vs shape of grip in the second pic
not for me -- it's a good build, even if i dislike the cheek .. in fact, i've reshaped that same piece before .. and have built more or less that gun before - i bet is shoots good, as most big bores (okay, more rifles) outshoot the owners ..
Might look for hidden xbolts.
If it were mine, i'd AT LEAST do hidden xbolts, and axial pin/rod in the wrist, and make DARN SURE the tang wasn't a "zero" clearance on the back of the action - I'll bet it has a timney trigger, which is a good trigger
though i'll be willing to take side bets that the irons are NOT filed in to POI
using such a straight stock with irons results in a HARD cheek shot
There is a left side pic didn’t get posted. Looking at it it has eagle and serial number and the main stamping is on the top under the scope mount. I could pull it off and see what it says exactly
I mean the left wall of the receiver; not the ring. I am pretty sure it is a military Gewehr 98 and not a commercial Oberndorf. No need to remove the scope base. I can see the top marking is Waffenfabrik Mauser, Oberndorf AN meaning Am Neckar (river) . AG which means Aktielgenshaft, like limited. That spelling is from memory so no comments there. The eagle is the imperial acceptance mark. And the three little proofs are proof marks.
Posts: 17380 | Location: USA | Registered: 02 August 2009
Yes, and they are dated on top so to see that you can remove your scope base. Huge difference; the Gewehr 98s were made for the German Army and are very common. There were several makers of them both Government and Private; Mauser, Danzig, Spandau, Erfurt, JP Sauer, Simson, Amburg, DWM, Haenel, Schilling, Kornbusch, and I probably forgot one. Whilst commercial Mausers, aren't. It doesn't make you rifle any less functional, but a lot less valuable. Gewehr 98s are common. I'll take some pictures tomorrow. Or come over and I'll show you 200 Mausers of all ilks.
Posts: 17380 | Location: USA | Registered: 02 August 2009
Many commercial Mauser receivers have thumb cuts; clip loading was popular in the olden days. So the markings have to be seen. Military Masuers are usually numbered with only 4 numbers and a lower case letter so they started with 0001a and went to 9999z: If more than 260000 number combinations were needed they went to aa etc. This one is 4893c. Production of commercial receivers was far fewer. Here are pictures of where the date is; this one is 1907, an early one; most are wartime and of course they stopped making them in 1918 except for Danzig but that is another story.
Posts: 17380 | Location: USA | Registered: 02 August 2009
Interesting thanks. I dont have it in front of me but pretty sure it does not have gew 98 on left side of receiver. I’ll check when I get back. I might pull the scope base and see what it says exactly
The sporters I have seen usually have a Banner on top, and either the Mauser Werke, or Waffenfabrik Mauser addresses on the side wall. And the small crown B, U, and G proofs; later N; not those big Army proofs or big Army eagle. And many privately made sporters have no marks at all.
Posts: 17380 | Location: USA | Registered: 02 August 2009
I can email you the pic of left side of ring. It has a 4 digit serial number that I blanked out and a small eagle and and L shaped marking under serial. When the blizzard subsides I can get back to house and pull scope mount
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Originally posted by dpcd: The sporters I have seen usually have a Banner on top, and either the Mauser Werke, or Waffenfabrik Mauser addresses on the side wall. And the small crown B, U, and G proofs; later N; not those big Army proofs or big Army eagle. And many privately made sporters have no marks at all.
RJ is referring to another post where there was a discussion about side panels on a rifle. Some call them cheeks. He likes your scalloped stock sides. No cheeks involved.
Posts: 17380 | Location: USA | Registered: 02 August 2009
The cheek pcs. on my Mannlichers are artistically done, obviously, but don't make much difference to me operationally as I am left-handed + there are no left-handed Germans.(das ist verboden)
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After the cross bolts is it worth getting leafs filed or just stick to the scope? Or even getting bolt handle straightened and Winchester style safety? Cross bolts best idea in thinking
It looks like a damned handsome .458 Mauser to my eyes. That straight stock line should help with the recoil. Read Paul Matthews for cast bullet fun with the .458.
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