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27 January 2006, 03:22
MJines
.500 Jeffrey
Anyone know what the cartridge dimensions are on the .500 Jeffrey -- or where I can find them? Particularly, will the .500 Jeffrey fit in a non-magnum (.30-06) action?


Mike
27 January 2006, 03:31
tiggertate
Yes, with about $1500-$2000 dollars worth of parts and expertise.


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27 January 2006, 03:43
Paul H
You should get a copy of the A-square reloading manual Any Shot You Want, it is the definitive refrence for big bore nuts and a must have.

Case head is .620" in dia, rim is .575" in dia, case is 2.755" long.

As tiggergate said, it can be made to fit in a standard length action, but I think his cost estimate is on the low side, as that would just about cover the work for the magazine and feed rails.

As much as I enjoy the 500 Jeffrey, the practicle and sensible way to get into a 50 is to get a 416 Rigby, CZ or Ruger, or a 460 Weatherby, and have them turned into a 500 A-square. Much less work to make the round function, brass is 1/2 the price of the Jeffrey, and you can find it! and you give up a whopping 100 fps, put another way, if 600's @ 2400 fps isn't enough for you, the 500 Jeffrey wasn't the answer anyhow.


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27 January 2006, 04:00
Scrollcutter
I don't have the Jeffrey dims in front of me, but it seems kinda puny and frilly compared to the 505 Gibbs.

sofa


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27 January 2006, 04:41
WVFred
Mike,
This one is set up on a standard 98.It has a single stack magazine and feeds great.
Fred


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27 January 2006, 06:02
jeffeosso
Mike,
you can shoot mine... and no I wont build another one

jeffe


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What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
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27 January 2006, 06:15
MJines
Thanks, I would welcome the chance. Sounds like the .500 Jeffrey is a great round, if you have a rifle in that caliber already; otherwise, look for another choice. My search for the ideal caliber to build on an '03 Springfield action continues . . .


Mike
27 January 2006, 09:38
Masterifleman
MJines - Take a look at SABI Rifles of Nelspruit, Mpumalanga, RSA. They specialize in making .500 Jeffreys out of 98 Mauser actions. I visited there in 2004 and the work they do is superlative. He explained to me how they milled 1 1/2 MM from the front of the magazine opening and 3 1/2 MM from the rear and constructed a one-piece stainless steel box bolstered by a lug screwed to the bottom front side of the receiver to support this mag box. Look at their website and see what they offer.


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27 January 2006, 09:42
Masterifleman
Haven't figured out how to bring up another search engine and not lose my current reply window. Check this out; www.sabirifles.co.za


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27 January 2006, 09:49
500grains
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
Thanks, I would welcome the chance. Sounds like the .500 Jeffrey is a great round, if you have a rifle in that caliber already; otherwise, look for another choice.


Not really. There are some fellows who are world class experts at getting a .500 jeff to feed. For example, Duane Wiebe of Washington state and Ryan Breeding of California. But you need a significant budget to hire that type of expertise.
27 January 2006, 14:45
cewe
PM boha, he just finished a .500 Jeffrey on a standard action (Huskie) and it feeds/works/shoots beautifully.


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27 January 2006, 17:25
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by 500grains:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
Thanks, I would welcome the chance. Sounds like the .500 Jeffrey is a great round, if you have a rifle in that caliber already; otherwise, look for another choice.


Not really. There are some fellows who are world class experts at getting a .500 jeff to feed. For example, Duane Wiebe of Washington state and Ryan Breeding of California. But you need a significant budget to hire that type of expertise.


ya'll said the same thing... let's not just be contrary, okay? as everyone reasonable person understood him to say "that works" in subtext.

jeffe


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
27 January 2006, 19:10
Cockbird Blaster
I have had a couple of 500 Jeffery's, on Mausers it is one of my favorites. There are guys out there that can make them feed correctly but it takes a special touch. Also, I was told at the NRA show in Houston last year by the guys at Waffenfabrik Hein that they build one of theer actions for the 500 Jeffery, I am considering that action for my next 500.
27 January 2006, 19:55
MJines
For my '03 Springfield project, I am leaning towards the .458 WM at this point. I know that the .458 WM is not without issues but it should be fine as a dangerous game rifle, its case length is such that it won't take a wizard (or fortune) to modify the action, ammo will be readily available at a decent cost, and if velocity is ever a major concern I can always go with handloads or reach out to someone like Superior for a good load. But in terms of a buffalo hunt, seems to me that the '03 action in .458 WM should do just fine -- am I drawing the wrong conclusion?


Mike
29 January 2006, 18:17
MJines
Spent some time talking to Tip Burns yesterday at the DSC. (Tip seems like an absolutely great person by the way.) Tip does not believe that it would be that problematic to get a .500 Jeffrey to work properly on a '03 Springfield action. He was going to do some tinkering around his shop and get back with me. I will let the let the group know what I hear. Would really like to find a way to do the Jeffrey versus something as bourgeois as a .458 WM. Stay tuned . . . .


Mike
29 January 2006, 20:59
bobc
Tip has built the Houston Safari Club President's rifle in 500 and it will be at the show next weekend. He and I looked at an original Schuler (Germanic 500 Jeff) to see how it was done long ago. I wouldn't be surprised if Tip might make some more of these. Bob