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Are enquiries you get for big strange bullets from people who own such a gun or just toying with an idea and of course bullets are one part of the equation that needs to be there

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Originally posted by MartytW:
OK, had to skip read part of it due to time restriction, but am I reading that there is a possibility of a single stack bolt action half way between standard Mag and McBros "big 50"? With a bolt face that could take .50 BMG rim size, but OAL of about 4" ....?

If that is the case, keep me in the loop, because I have some stuff that would fit that niche and then some ... now where did I put those drawings and simulations of the 458-50 Spotter AI? With the right bullet (need a 600 gr Match King in 458 ...) this would be the Big Bore Bench Rest ne plus ultra

Then there are some little DoD items ...

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Originally posted by fritz454:
Mike 378, I'm going to start doing CNC inletting of stocks soon. It's a simple matter of making a set of form fitting jaws for a particular stock and then milling out the inlet for the barrel channel, action and mag well. I think I can keep a .005-.010 gap consistent between barrel and wood and do it at a very fast rate.

I have done this for the Butler creek stocks thousands of time. It was for their Howa and Weatherby plastic stocks but the principal is the same and run time once set was under a few minutes for each. The only down side to all of this is the need to make a form jaw set for each stock shape. The action inlet is independent of the stock and the program can run on any stock.

I’ve got the match king profile in cad and can easily scale it up or down to whatever caliber you could want. It would be a solid but for punching paper what’s the difference.

I usually load bore riders even in the hunting calibers with good results accuracy wise. The concentricity to the center of mass is perfectly in line with the bore centerline. It makes for big time accuracy.

Definitely not a game bullet but if that is what is wanted we switch to a softer alloy and drill a hollow point and c’sink the nose. The bullet is still very aerodynamic but will now open up on game. Just take a look at Saeed’s success with his lathe turned bullets on game.

I’ve had the same experience although I do prefer FN bullets for the big nasties. The aerodynamic bullets are great for deer, elk, bear, African antelope, etc. I just like the thump of a FN and the amount of tissue destruction they do inside. Since it’s a close range affair anyway there is no need for high BC bullets.

John

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Originally posted by Mike378:
fritz454

I know what you mean about flat noses. I have shot countless kangaroos with the 458 Speer 400 flat nose loaded at about 2100 and also the 500 grain Hornady loaded backwards in the 460 Wby.

Mike

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Originally posted by Mike378:
Do you do any 375s

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Originally posted by Mike378:
Martin,

Say 300 grains and the thinnest jacket you have. In other words, a 300 grain varmint bullet.

Actually, what might be better to try is if you make a 458 500 grain varmint bullet. Sort of like a 500 grain version of the 400 grain Speer flat nose. Do you do any as a hollow point like a 500 grain version of the 300 grain Hornady 458.

Mike

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Originally posted by PC:
Martin is a hoolo cavity like that on the 300 gr sierra pro hunter .458 hpfn......that in my marlin 45/70 at 2100 fps makes dinner plate entry wounds on occasions !!

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Originally posted by Mike378:
We want to try 500 grainers one reason being they match the weight of the Hornady and Woodleigh.

As I said a 500 grain 458 that was about like a 400 grain Speer with longer shank would be about right. I picked the 458 as I can get that tried out earlier.

We don't eat roos and pigs we shoot so the idea is maximum blow up effect.

Quite a few blokes have asked Taipan bullets out here to make a 500 grain varmint bullet.

For a few bullets freight is not a big deal but you might enquire on cost of surface for bigger orders because I have given strong consideration to Richard Corbins gear and Butch Harefields jackets but if someone else can make the bullets then that is probably the way to go especially factoring in the cost of having to buy the gear from Richard plus the wait and so on.

One bulley that I will be interested in is a 300 grain 375 or 500 458 that is full diamter to the round nose or flat point. The 378 and 460 Wbys have a very long freebore and both will load down nicely to equal mild 375 H&H or mild 458 power. But under that you get hangfires and we cant get that Accurate Arms 5744 (is that the number) so the next down is shot gun powder loads. But a bullet that was full diameter for the full length would touch the rifling and I think that would prevent hangfires when the 378 or 460 are loaded down to between shotgung powder loads and 375 or 458 ballistics. Fillers don't interest me. That ight be something we could look at a bit later and I could give you the money to get the dies from Richard.

Sometime I envy people who find happiness with their Ruger in 308 or 30/06

Mike

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Originally posted by Mike378:
PC,

I was thinking of getting Martin to send you some of the 500 grain varmint bullets to try in the 458 Lott.

Mike

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Originally posted by PC:
A 500 gr varmint bul;let in .458 would be good then I will have the situation I have with my .416, sited for woodleigh's 410 gr softs with practically same POI for the Taipan 400 gr bullet.

In .458 lott I am sited for the 500 gr woodleigh and hopefully one day get a varmint 500 gr .458 that shoots to the same poi

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Originally posted by MartinPotts:
Yes marty i know you need the 600 Grain match king ..its the designing ogf the bullet that has me in a quandra.. i have been working on the design now since you contacted me a year ago..

Pottsy

PA Bullet's

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Originally posted by MartinPotts:
John if you can do marty's bullet in a .458 soild that would be fine by me guy
But i think he was looking for a lead cored bullet .
Ifnot please feel free guy ..