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Has anyone tried out the 270gr LRX for their 375 Ruger or H&H Rifles? I was just on another site and saw someone post a picture of the LRX and have to say i'm very interested in it. With a BC of .449 it seems it will help extend the range a bit. I've no experience with the TTSX or LRX in my 375 Ruger and have limited experience with Barnes XLC and TSX in smaller calibers. Just curious if anyone has tried them yet. | ||
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Haven't tried them yet. Actually, I did not know they were making them. Do you have a link to that thread ?? Phil Shoemaker : "I went to a .30-06 on a fine old Mauser action. That worked successfully for a few years until a wounded, vindictive brown bear taught me that precise bullet placement is not always possible in thick alders, at spitting distances and when time is measured in split seconds. Lucky to come out of that lesson alive, I decided to look for a more suitable rifle." | |||
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A theoretical improvement of 2.9 inches of drop @ 300 yards versus a round nose 270 grn and only .7 versus a standard spire point. I think of a 375 ruger as a dangerous game cartridge and struggle with idea of taking shots at 300 plus yards on dangerous game. So while I applaud the options it provides, not sure of its practical use unless you are using it in a 375 chey-tac or similar application. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I agree but I agree even more with your new signature. I always say, if it was all about guns, how come school shootings have never been committed by a female? In fact, the only shooting I can think of by a female was the recent YouTube HQ shooting. | |||
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Cold Trigger Finger the other forum I was reading about the bullets was AR15.com. They were discussing different elk hunting rifles and one poster showed the LRX for his 375 H&H. I have known a few people who have hunted Elk with the 375 H&H and they never talked bad about it. https://www.midwayusa.com/prod...-boat-tail-box-of-50 Here they are. They are a dollar a pop but most premium hunting bullets in large calibers are somewhat pricey. Mike I've never been to Africa so I can't speak to that. I have read on these forums of guys taking longer shots on plains game with their 375s though. And by comparing the round nose drop to the LRX wouldn't the LRX carry more velocity and energy to the target at those ranges? | |||
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Palladin, Yes, indeed it would. I chose the round nose configuration because the OP was discussing range which is generally associated with trajectory and I wanted to illustrate the extreme. The LRX is still going about 2275 with 3125 ft lbs. The round nose is doing 1880 with 2125 (adequate) but far behind the LRX. That being said if you were ever contemplating 300 yard shots you would never start off with the round nose. Let's compare to a non-premium spire point non BT - run of the mill 270 grainer. A hornady spire point would be doing 2180 delivering 2850 ft lbs. Not that much improvement with the LRX. My general point is high BC bullets are great but they don't really shine until you get to 400 or even 500 plus yards which has very little real world practical application in a DGR cartridge. Now sure lots of folks are building specialized long range hunting rifles but those are generally in 6.5, 30, or 338. Other than a 375 chey-tac which really can't be chambered in a hunting rifle, I don't see anybody building a long range rifle and 375 being there bore diameter of choice. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Gene Simillion is building me a .375 H&H and we are going to work up a load with this bullet. Not planning to hunt Buff at that range, but as a "one rifle", improving ballistics for plains game at 300 yds is attractive. | |||
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Thanks for your input Mike. I was looking at my 300gr Sierra Game Kings and they seem to have a better BC than the LRX bullets does. Again not that it matters but they are considerably cheaper than the LRX and i'm sure would work just fine on Elk at 300+yds if they were used. | |||
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That would be the bullet to try in a 378 Weatherby! | |||
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With the TTSX being a reliable expander down to 1800 fps . I don't see any problem with shooting to that range. I've killed Sitka Blacktail deer at around 1600 feet distant. With my Montana 1999 with the 375 H+H barrel on it . Shooting 300 gr Federal High Energy Trophy Bonded Bearclaw. With a fixed 3 power Leupold. Used my 4 wheeler seat as a rest. Called the shot , hit within 5" of where I called. Thru both shoulder blades. 1 shot , bang flop, tumble down the hillside. It's not a case of if a 375 can work great for the farther reaches of close range. But, wether the shooter and rifle are capable of doing it. If, once I've gotten to be good buddies with my new 375 Ruger Guide Gun . A deer , bou or good moose presents itself at 400 yards or more . And I know the range to within 20 yards. And I can't get closer, and I KNOW I can make the shot . Just like I have with 338 Win mags and 375s and my 6.5 Creedmoor. Especially considering my favorite hunting bullet in my 6.5 is the 130 gr TSX @ 2775 fps. Get use to a fairly standardized velocity and B.C. with your hunting rifles and it simplifies a lot of things. The thing a guy needs to do is shoot their rifle so much that hitting up close or far away isn't hard. At least in my humble opinion and experience. Phil Shoemaker : "I went to a .30-06 on a fine old Mauser action. That worked successfully for a few years until a wounded, vindictive brown bear taught me that precise bullet placement is not always possible in thick alders, at spitting distances and when time is measured in split seconds. Lucky to come out of that lesson alive, I decided to look for a more suitable rifle." | |||
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I did some brief testing late last year between the 250gnTTSX and the 270gnLRX. The 250gn TTSX has established its accuracy in my wife's 375Ruger and I couldn't get the initial loads of the 270gnLRX to match that (a few 1"-1.25" groups). Time ran out, so we went with the 250gnTTSX as the most accurate. My wife will mostly be shooting impala, hartebeest, or wildebeest with her 375, but the 250gn will handle buffalo when and if she is so inclined. Here is a picture of the bullet and loading data:  For her 'comfy load' she has some 200gnGSC. Here is a picture of a light load 2815 fps (the two very first shots with her rifle), though we settled later on 3100fps for this bullet (no picture of that load):  The above comments are purely anecdotal, of course, and have an application to only one rifle. I would expect the 270LRX to work out great once a person spends some time on the loads. One potential difference in loading development may be the result of the new shank in the LRX. Instead of the three grooves of the TTSX the new LRX only has two cut grooves and more shank. It is worth testing. Lady Tanz a couple years ago with her new 375, at ready, and then a split-second after an earlier shot. First 'at ready':  And after a shot:  +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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Nice shooting by the Mrs! Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Thank you, Mike. PS: Lady Tanzan just turned 70 in that picture and has her natural hair color. (The individual grey hairs don't show in the pic.) Pretty spry grandma, move over Beverly hillbillies! She is relatively new to hunting and shooting the last 6-7 years. With no macho to prove, she just follows advice and rolls with the recoil. PPS: Here is a picture of the new .375" 270 grain LRX with the long shank and only two cut grooves:  +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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