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Originally posted by Kenai Capt:

Paul,
Yes it's one of the 5 from GNG, but Bowen didn't do them.Cliff LaBounty did the rebore ,but a local smith rechambered and assembled them, not sure who. I like it fine so far, have not been able to get out shooting much, but what I've done has been a a hoot. Still need to get it bedded and the magazine box is a hair too short so need to address that as well. Sorry about the weird reply , I can't figure out how to do the quote thing,
Regards
Ron

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Ron, there are a few icons on the top of each post, the third one over should provide a drop down that says reply with quote.

Last time I was in GNG, they still had one of the 505's on the rack.

I'm hoping to have my 500 Jeffrey shooting some time this year, but haven't recieved a firm date on when I'll get the barreled action, then I need to do the rail and magazene work and stock it, in amongst all the upcoming summer activities. I've just been looking into a halibut charter, this clear weather sure makes one think about summer, even if it was -3 this morning.

I have fired 84 mm carl gustav rifle as well. (Sorry, could�t resist)

Softlead

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Not really.

I shot an elephant and a buffalo with my 585.

[This message has been edited by 500grains (edited 03-16-2002).]

I noticed I got no replies to my second post, which dealt with the question you are now asking. Specifically I asked; Have you shot any game with that 505+?

I have shot several buffalo with a 505 Gibbs many years ago. I now use a 500 AHR for bison and if all goes according top plan bear and moose in the near future. Personally I feel the recoil of these rifles is a bit heavy for most shooters to handle. Particularly from a recovery stand point. Their "knock down" or "stopping power" however is without equal. In my opinion the 45's and even the 475's are poor substitutes. I realize that you feel they do not offer enough penetration. The Gibbs and the AHR, as well as. the 585 and 577 T Rex can easily be loaded up to 2500+ fps with monolithic solids of appropriate weight (SD of .32) and will penetrate deep enough on any thing that still walks this earth. Of course the recoil is shall we say STIFF.

For most hunters I would agree with you that a 458 Lott or 416 Remington, Rigby, etc would be a far better hunting rifle for dangerous game.

Todd E

Does my 54 Cal muzzleloader allow me interim membership?

Canuck

referring to my ideas, the .510 calibers of course have enough penetration, if properly loaded and good shot placement. Only in emergency and with raking shots the hot .458 and .416 are better with respect to penetration.
I hunted with both calibers from impala to elephant and observed no difference in killing ability. The only difference was, that angled shots on elephant heads went through with .458, whereas the .510 stuck under the opposite hide.

Norbert

How does that 8 bore penetrate?

.500 Linebaugh Long on Linebaugh Ruger Bisley Conversion
.50 Alaskan on 71� Browning build by Markus Moll
.50 �140 on Shiloh Sharps
.50 BMG on McMillan M87
.500 A-Square on A-Square Hannibal
.500 Jeffery on Mauser Std action 4+1 Conversion of Harry Baelder
.500 N.E. on Ruger No.1 Conversion done by Harry Baelder
.505 Gibbs on Hartmann & Weiss action done by Hartmann and Weiss
.585 Nyati on Ritterbusch Super Magnum action build by Ritterbusch
.577 Tyrannosauer on A-Square Hannibal
.577 Rewa on Hagn action build by Hartmann und Weiss
.577 N.E. DB rifle on order at Ziegenhahn Suhl

Experience with
.600 N.E. on a 10pound revolver build by Joe Peters
.700 N.E. DB rifle build by Ziegenhahn Suhl

regards
Robert