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I have not had one but never heard anything but praises until here. Is this a bad rifle? I was going to look into one. I was initially turned off by the mechanics of the bolt when I saw it at several Shot Shows. The machine engraving/etching didn't help either. Several writers spoke well of it. I think Ross Seyfried was one. Please tell me your thoughts. Thanks. | ||
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You may find some criticism of the Blaser R93 system from those that prefer traditional guns, but from those that actually own and shoot them regularly, I think you'll find criticism much harder to find. I've had one for about 5 years and find it a truly wonderful gun that shoots as well as any rifle I've ever experienced. If, by chance, you're talking about the Blaser double rifle, I'd likely align myself with the critics (but like most Blaser critics, I've never shot one). | |||
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I am just your average guy I turn wrenches for a living. I bought one 7 years ago, sold 4 rifles to get it. I have shot everything from deer to a BC mountain goat with it.Been to africa this past year, plains game it worked well. the longest shot I have made was 415 yrds on a mule deer in mussel shell montana. those who like it love it and those who don't hate it. I love mine. | |||
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Most Blaser users love them. I have shot Blasers and do not like the way they feel or operate, but that is personal preference. For dangerous game, I would not be interested in a Blaser or any other push feed rifle. For everything else, you probably cannot go wrong with a Blaser if you like the way they feel and handle. | |||
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500 Grains Did ice or water in the bbl cause it to split? DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Tanker I have used just about every different type of bolt action rifle over the last 35 years[I am over 50]. I have 3 Blaser R 93 recievers and 8 barrels. I have never had one single problem with the Blaser system. I have shot 223 to the 416 Mag. I have several friends that have Blaser R 93's and none of them have had any problems. The more I shoot and hunt with them the more I like them. To JOHAN and the rest of the Blaser critics.... Don't Hate. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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I don't personally like the Blaser or Sauer 202 but from what I have seen they are perhaps among the best rifles you can buy. I think in many ways the Blaser and Sauer as compared to Rem 700, M70, Weatherby, Ruger etc are somewhat like comparing European cars to the General Motors or Ford products. By that I mean they are better "out of the box" but not suitable for someone who is into bedding, rebarreling and is generally infected with the "can't leave it alone disease" etc and whatever. Mike | |||
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500grains I may be in Salt Lake City in June on the way up, or back, when traveling for my bear hunt. Would you like to meet at Aleko's gun store Heritage Arms for a visit? The invitation is extended to other AR members in tha area too. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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blaser R93 what caliber is your rifle? DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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500grains Is this the story you refer to? Davey Hughes, owner of Swazi Apparel in New Zealand, hunted goats here in Southeast Alaska. He fired at a goat, the guide called "high", he jacked another round and fired again. The entire barrel peeled back to the chamber. Luckily no one got hurt. Blaser would not warrant the barrel. Apparently the first bullet's jacket came off in the barrel. The second bullet hit the jacket and exploded the barrel. Shawn Hello Lutz I have had an email which talks about problems with the R93. I enclosed a picture of my Blaser on my hunt in Alaska. If this is of interest please contact me. The shot which blew the barrel up was my SECOND shot. You can still see the yellow tape which was on the end of the barrel to stop mud and snow entering. Blaser technicians, who looked at the barrel, told me that my first .300" 11,7g Swift Scirroco bullet shed some of it's jacket and the second shot blew up the barrel. My question was why? The barrel was a bad one from the very first day. It would not shoot standard factory ammunition without locking the bolt. I got in touch with Blaser who told me to moly-coat my projectiles to fix the problem! Yes! It fixed it alright! Davey Hughes http://home.snafu.de/l.moeller/Zylinderverschluss/Zylinderverschluss.htm | ||
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JOHAN It would appear you don't think much of the Blaser. Just a feeling I got Mike | |||
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The pictured rifle makes me wonder if Blaser could have subcontracted some barrelmaking to Sako ? Reason is there's a ressemblance in the way they blow up, kind of a trademark Kidding aside, I never had a problem with my 2 R93's and they're my most used rifles. Show me a Blaser owner (except Johan ) which is not satisfied and I'll be surprised. André DRSS --------- 3 shots do not make a group, they show a point of aim or impact. 5 shots are a group. | |||
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I bought my first R93 sometime around 1994. During the 10 years since then, I have hunted with my R93s as much as with all of my other rifles together. Since my initial R93, 2 additional stock/bolt assemblies have been added plus a total of 8 barrels (an additional one is planned at this time - couple of weeks, maybe?). I really appreciate the fact I can carry a round chambered in complete safety. To me, it makes a world of difference whether the action is uncocked (R93), or cocked with a safety ensuring the main spring can't be accidently released. On top of that, I enjoy that the R93 is a good 3-4" shorter than a regular bolt action with the same barrel length. For travelling, it is magic that the gun takes down (no more long gun cases to lug around, breakdown case disappear into dufflebag). The gun offers amazing versatility, and you can switch calibers and scopes around in about 2 minutes. On top of that, the action is amazingly fast for follow-up shots, something I don't normally need, but which can be practical - in a driven hunt situation, say. Blasers tend to evoke a lot of polarized opinions. A lot of pepole don't like the style, or the fact that the rifle has synthetic parts. There are probably more rugged rifles and scope mounts available, so if I go on horseback, I'll probably bring a different rifle. Other than that, I really like mine, and could not imagine being without it. - mike ********************* The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart | |||
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Andre Mertens I know, why don't you contact Dave Hughes Guess he is extremely pleased with blaser Cheers / JOHAN | ||
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I am that guy that prefers to have a smith build something to suit. I also prefer single shots but for some reason the Blaser bolt has intrigued me and at the same time repelled me. I knew there would be plenty of practical experience here. Seems those that really like it are legion but those that don't have some pretty catastrophic reasons. Whew! I know you can break anything but I seriously doubt any of you intended to. I would also think this lot would be reasonably prudent and aware of safety precautions. So it looks like there are good merits possibly mixed with fatal flaws. If so, that's a far cry from just not liking the stock design or the curve of the bolt. This has been most informative. I sure appreciate the response. | |||
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Johan, Thanks for filling in the details of the story. The link you posted has a wealth of information. 450 NO 2, I would be delighted with a chance to get together, and perhaps shoot as well if you like? The shooting could be big bores, or if you prefer I know where the prarie dogs reside (3.5 hour drive one way). | |||
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Tanker, Just use the search function for the keyword "Blaser" and you'll find many posts. And you're right, mostly all of them may be categorized on one side or other of the "love 'em or hate 'em" line. BTW, you'll also find that I'm on record as being in the love 'em category. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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The Blaser is NOT a rifle. It is an abomination! I have several of them here - all gotten through part exchange, and I would never, ever consider hunting with one. I will take up spear throwing instead People either love them or hate them. I just plain loathe them! | |||
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Hey Saeed, got room behind that sofa, because I'm with you on the Blazer 93, and more so on the double rifle! ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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Saeed, MacD37: What is it that you don't like? Reliability, endurance, other? I was looking at one that a dealer has been lugging to the shows. Actually a Blaser single shot dragged me over but then I saw the bolt gun. I am really glad that I asked here before taking the plunge. Either way it's good info to ponder. | |||
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Tanker, From the ones I have seen, there is not much that I like about them. I might qualify this, as I think the ones offered in Europe use a different design of stock than the ones sold in the US. The European stock is so bad I barely have my chin on the stock to be able to see through the scope. And when I fire the rifle, I get a kick like a left hook from Mike Tyson! I actually see stars each time I fire anything larger than a 300 Winchester Magnum in these contraptions. I don't like the action either - but I deslike all the new actions designs that come out of Europe. You know, like those with a straight pull bolt, those with half the action moving backwards and so on. The whole operation of this rifle seems to me to be so unnatural. | |||
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I know that it is futile to debate matters of taste, but I dislike the Blazer for the following reasons: 1 Ugly 2 Expensive 3 Poor workmanship for the money The last one I saw had the poorest fitting butt pad I've seen in years 4 Too much plastic 5 Noisy in operating the cocker 6 Unergonomic, at least to me | |||
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I have owned a Blaser for about 9 years, never had a problem. Accuracy is exceptional, feeding flawless. As unconventional as their double is, it is a very good one. I think the secret is knowing your rifle and how it works. I have seen several Blasers abused and none of them have had any catastrophic problems. I have and will continue to use my Blaser on dangerous game Aleko Hits count, misses don't | |||
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500 grains We will definately get together for at least a visit, and will try to shoot some prairie dogs too.. As we firm up our travel plans we will let you know what days we will be in SLC. Just guessing I would say around June 16th. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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N.E. 450 NO 2 I HAVE ,257 WBY , .300 WBY , 7MM STW , .375 H& H AND last but not least .416 REM. anyone have a extra bolt body for sale. | |||
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Lads, take my word for it, stay away from the doubles.I dont know anything about the 93"s and dont want to find out. There is a member of the Pittsburg S.C.I. who sells them, loves them and will never use another gun again. I am old and old fashioned and like the same in my guns . Hope this helps you out. Charlie | |||
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blaser93 That is a very good selection of calibres. If you do hunts were weight of your gear is at a premium and there is edible small game like grouse around, you should take a look at the 28ga bbl. I have killed several animals for the pot with it. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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blaser93, Excellent choices. I have .25-06, 7mm Rem. Mag., .308 Win., .338 Win. Mag. and .375 H&H Mag. I don't think I want or need any more, although N E 450 No2 has got me thinking about the 28 gauge shotgun option . . . Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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I have used my .28 so many times it is not even funny. Now we just need .28 Slugs Aleko Hits count, misses don't | |||
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Aleko: Do you have to press the 28-ga shell into a magazine insert, or is the insert just a shelf on which the shell lays? --- Eric Ching "The pen is mightier than the sword...except in a swordfight." | |||
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Anyone that would hunt and praise a Blaser would chase rabbits and howl at the moon..should be gilflurted and stringhaultered... If anyone ever give me one then I will use it to drive postholes or for a trot line sinker, they are good for that.... Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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If that is the case Ray, then why were you drooling over mine when I handed it to you. It's not too late to come out of the closet. | |||
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Why in the world would anyone want a $4K bolt action shotgun? | |||
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M16 I wasn't drolling I was trying to keep from tossing my cookies on your new rifle!! Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Cheers / JOHAN | ||
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I am a new Blaser owner and I have three of them, an S-2 that I am selling and have never shot. A R93 and the K95 I bought my father. I like all three but the S-2 I am selling for financial reasons. (To pay for another safari). The S-2 is at www.westleyrichards.com I like all of them, the R93 and K95 handle like a dream, shoot great, and are really accurate. I shot a S-2 in 375, a R93 LRS2 in 338 Lapua and 22-250 and a K95 in 300 Winchester as well. The only problem I ever had from any of them was the 22-250 wouldn't feed worth a crap, but I here they are making a new magazine for the 22-250, that works well. I like them, and I have a lot of custom high dollar rifles. | |||
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I have to come out of the closet. I own a Blaser LRS-2 in .308 with a 3.5 - 10 x 40 LRT Mark 4 scope. I must admit that I would feel comfortable calling which eye I was going to put the bullet through at 300 meters. It looks goofy as all get out, but its a shooter. lawndart Edited for spelling. | |||
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I lusted after one for a long time, handled many, then bought one. Took it to the range to sight in and........just lost all passion for it. Didn't feel "right" seemed heavy, clubby, teutonic.........it is for sale | |||
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jehand, Which model Blaser did you buy? I have found the R 93 hunting rifles handle very well. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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I have feet in both camps - I take a Mauser to Africa but respect the performance of my Blaser R93 (3 barrels). I'm not getting into the debate but in the interests of safety in the face of dangerous game be aware that feeding problems can occur if the wrong rubber magazine well insert is in. When changing from 308 to 9.3x62 I need to change the inserts or the 9.3 cartridges WILL 'nosedive' and jam - but that's why one 'torture tests' a rifle before taking it into the field, and the solution was a lot simpler than the numerous controlled feed rifles I have struggled with over the years! Charlie in NZ | |||
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