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.395 Tatanka: Naked baby Pictures on a Bison Robe
10 July 2007, 12:40
Bent Fossdal.395 Tatanka: Naked baby Pictures on a Bison Robe
Good show, Ron!
Always nice to see projects like this come true!

Bent Fossdal
Reiso
5685 Uggdal
Norway
.366torque,
Thanks.
Just a bad joke on the title line. The rifle is no joke.

mr rigby,
Neal Shirley was the inspiration for action with his .550 Magnum, a new caliber.
Then there is the recent 606 Mammoth using .599 caliber bullets, another new caliber, maximum Kalifornia style. Anybody remember that proud papa's name?
However, the pickings are now pretty slim in caliber selections, now that the huge gap between .375 and .416 has been "plugged."

quote:
Originally posted by John in SC:
Magnificent, sir.
The .395 Tatanka is the best that has ever been or will be.
I will stick with the GSC in my air rifle, especially since it makes my magic 2700 without undue pressure and of course it's the most efficient.

But the Tatanka is the end-all of cartridge developement. It will never be bettered, cet.par.
John,
I see you are a very discerning judge of cartridge design. You are so right!

quote:
Originally posted by Bent Fossdal:
Good show, Ron!
Always nice to see projects like this come true!
Thanks Bent.
The 40-ought-seven is here. Fireforming into the proper ".395/.338 Lapua Mag.-Long" awaits.
.378 Wby and .395 Tatanka "mockup-dummies":
.395/.338 Lapua Mag. = .398 Lapua Mag. = ".395 Tatanka-Short"
".395 Family" cartridges coming soon, Four Brothers:
.395 Tatanka
.398 Lapua Mag.
.395 GSC
.395 Ruger Max
I see that Bent has the 425 Capstick listed at
www.ammoguide.com.

I will have to do the same for the .395 Tatanka.
Afterall, that is where you can find the .416 Tatanka listed.

11 July 2007, 14:00
Bent Fossdalquote:
Originally posted by RIP:
I see that Bent has the 425 Capstick listed at
www.ammoguide.com.

I will have to do the same for the .395 Tatanka.
Afterall, that is where you can find the .416 Tatanka listed.
Yea well that was a mistake - I was playing around and accidently contributed the round. That was 3 weeks ago, and nothing happened, so I thougt I was safe. See, it is not finnished, and the name will probably be something else...
I will mail them now!
Bent Fossdal
Reiso
5685 Uggdal
Norway
This baby had a congenital defect.
It had to be sent back, in-utero, to Dakota Arms in Sturgis, SD to have corrective surgery before birth.
The action threads were recut to a larger than standard size for the M76 African.
The action thread is now 1.062" 18TPI.
Kevin says this is the usual thread for a Stolle action, also same as Nesika Bay.
A second corrective surgery was done in-utero on the fetal rifle: the .423/.338 Lapua Mag. barrel was amputated and a .395 Tatanka barrel was transplanted just before birth.
It took! Baby is doing well. I doubt that the .423 barrel will ever go back on. Sort of like the foreskin from a circumcision.

12 July 2007, 11:50
MacifejWhat finish is that Mr. RIP?
Looks like DreadNaught Satin.

Thought I saw one of Charlie Sisk's Customs with a similar finish.
Like to order my next car that color.
Mac,
"Gray Seal Paint" a baked on finish, other comments posted previously on page 1 of this thread. I know, you prefer pictures to reading the print?

12 July 2007, 12:08
boom stickquote:
Originally posted by Bent Fossdal:
quote:
Originally posted by RIP:
I see that Bent has the 425 Capstick listed at
www.ammoguide.com.

I will have to do the same for the .395 Tatanka.
Afterall, that is where you can find the .416 Tatanka listed.
Yea well that was a mistake - I was playing around and accidently contributed the round. That was 3 weeks ago, and nothing happened, so I thougt I was safe. See, it is not finnished, and the name will probably be something else...
I will mail them now!
i tried making a 2.61" safari version but i dont know it it took...
12 July 2007, 12:11
MacifejRIP!
Macifej translates to Bear Head (my wife's name for me) Everyone knows Bears can't read! (at least the ones in So. Cal can't) So pictures are best.
quote:
Originally posted by Macifej:
RIP!
Macifej translates to Bear Head (my wife's name for me) ...
Macifej,
What language would that be? Is that a joke about being bald, or very hairy, or stubborn/tenacious?

"Tatanka" is Lakota Sioux. There are Lakota, Dakota, and Nakota tribes among the Sioux, with finer distinctions still amongst the clans and locales.
My adopted Lakota name is "Cante Mato": "Care Bear" or "Bear Heart" (pronounced ... Chahn Tay' Mah Toh')
cante = care or heart
mato = bear
I am a chief only in my own mind.

Could you also spell out a phonetic pronunciation of "Macifej" and what language please?

12 July 2007, 21:47
MacifejThink it was meant originally as good natured trouble maker.
Language is Magyar (Hungarian) main existing branch of Ugro-Finnic language tree - the others being Finnish and Estonian.
Maci = (mah-tsee) young bear
Fej = (fay) head
12 July 2007, 22:12
Canuckquote:
My adopted Lakota name is "Cante Mato": "Care Bear" or "Bear Heart" (pronounced ... Chahn Tay' Mah Toh')
cante = care or heart
mato = bear
hehehehe...I gotta say RIP...I never quite pictured you as a Care Bear.

I don't think have a "Wildcat Bear", or "Heavily Armed Bear" amongst the Care Bears.

"Bear Heart" has a nice ring to it though! FREEDOM!!! Oh no...that was Braveheart.

Cheers,
Canuck
Canuck,
Oops! You got Will's picture up there instead of mine. Here is Cante Mato:
BTW, how about "Fifty Ought Seven" for the 500 Mbogo?

Or "Fifty Aught Eight" making time allowances for a Satterlee action. I sure hope it doesn't turn into the "Fifty Naught Nine."
The perfect 3-rifle battery for big game:
30-06
40-07
50-08

13 July 2007, 07:36
Canuckquote:
The perfect 3-rifle battery for big game:
30-06
40-07
50-08
I do like. Alot. I don't want to help you give Satterlee any reason to slow down, but I think the 50-08 has a nicer ring to it than 50-07.

Cheers,
Canuck
That settles it then, after extensive market testing of the names on a sample of one Canadian:
.30-06 Springfield
.40-07 Tatanka
.50-08 Mbogo
The perfect 3-rifle battery, and it only took 102 years to develop.

14 July 2007, 05:49
MacifejYou must add the .60-09 and make it a quartet. Must be a rimless design for the obligatory lever gun project.
quote:
Originally posted by Macifej:
You must add the .60-09 and make it a quartet. Must be a rimless design for the obligatory lever gun project.
Excellent! Something different!
But why not a rimmed cartridge for singles, doubles, levers, and pump actions?
.30-06 Springfield
.40-07 Tatanka
.50-08 Mbogo
.60-09 Macifej
"Sixty-Naught-Nine": What actual caliber shoud the bullet be? Maybe a true .600" for non-California use? Or .595" to open up the Republik of Kalifornia market?

A little brother to the 606 Mammoth, for the recoil sensitive. Or a fraternal twin of the 606 Mammoth for the recoil insensitive? Now I really have a purpose in life.

End of the line for this line. Have to wait until the next century to start over with the ought/aught/naught years of a first decade.

14 July 2007, 06:24
MacifejI believe a full length M102 case could be easily necked down to .595". I have fresh brass and the press..........you could call it the Boxer/Feinstein Irrationalizer Express. Only comes in a drilling with the lower barrel being a .22 short for close in Cal legal work.
Mac,
I was thinking of something a bit more mundane.
A brass 20-guage 2.75" case kecked down to .595, or a 600 NE 3" necked from .620 down to .595 caliber.
Aiming for production in 2009.
20-Guage-From-Hell has already been done.
Lakota instead of Hungarian:
.60-09 Mato.

14 July 2007, 08:42
MacifejOk I guess I'll have to cut that perfectly good Vulcan brass in half and make those .977 Snider cases I've been thinking about.
Hey speaking of paper weights, I do have 60 rounds of Bertram 10.75 x 68 unfired if someone needs it. Thought I was going to buy an original mauser and then.........well you know that story I'm sure.