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Matt, If you get a 460 Wby and remove the belt and change the shoulder from that rounded shoulder to a normal shoulder and remove the huge freebore of the 460 Wby, you have the 450 Rigby. 450 Dakota is the same. Both the 450 Rigby/Dakota are a 416 Rigby necked up to 458 and then "Improved" to gain sufficient shoulder for head spacing. Mike | |||
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I had the opportunity to fire a .450 Rigby on a custom Mauser action (I don't remember the make, but it was from a riflebuilder in Bloemfontein) in July. I know it was very effective on a springbok at 175 yards. That is all I can help you with. Recoil was invigorating. Joel Slate Slate & Associates, LLC www.slatesafaris.com 7mm Rem Mag Page www.slatesafaris.com/7mm.htm | |||
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"Old Sarge" has a custom .450 Rigby that he simply adores. Do a "search" and you may find some of his related posts. | |||
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Matt77, I interviewed a KYNAMCO staffer on the development of this cartridge; they did the development work, and I believe are the only ammunition source. I was writing an article on the .450" bore size and magazine rifles at the time. The basics are a .458"/480 grain bullet (soft and solid) at 2,378 fps muzzle velocity, for 6288 ft-lbf muzzle energy. If you roll your own necking a .416 Rigby case up will be a bit short according to KYNAMCO, I have not tried it myself. I think the dummy they gave me was an actual .450 cartridge. It had some very good reports when it first came out, but I have not read anything recently. There are some users on AR, but AR users are, well AR users are a bit different... We don't do what everybody does. I handled a Rigby (of London) rifle chambered in the .450, and it was wonderful I was sorry I didn't have a $9,000 bill in my wallet (the "show price" at that). jim dodd | |||
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If the necked up .416 case is "short" the difference is so slight that you will be hard pressed to find it without a micrometer. Necked up .416's are fully functional and work jes' fahn, thankee. I respect Dave Little greatly but, after all, he is in business to sell ammo and components. If you insist on headstamped brass, Bertram makes them but I wouldn't bother unless I was going to Botswana. That seems to be the only country where it ever matters and sometimes not even there. Figure on a .450 Ackley, Atkins or Lott at lower pressure and you will know what it will do. | |||
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Horneber was supposed to make 450 Rigby brass, wasn't he? | |||
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Andy, Horneber lists it in his catalog for 2.80 Euro bucks each. | |||
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Yes, Horneber is making brass for a bout $2 per case. I have a 450 Rigby rifle in progress and hopefully it will be done in a few weeks. Oldsarge has sold me a few used cases based on the 416 Rigby brass and they look to be working just fine. The neck would be a little shorter but other than that I think using 416 Rigby brass to make the 450 Rigby would be the way to go. I have some BELL basic cases and will also be trying them out. Have fun. | |||
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Thanks everyone. If it's made, someone at AR has one. what's horneber's website? | ||
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