07 November 2002, 18:54
<Matt77>450 Rigby
I was gracing the not-so literature award winning musings of the 8th edition Cartridges of the World last night and stumbled upon the write-up about the 450 Rigby.
Usually the author, well, the editor (since the author is no longer with us) places some ballistics below the write-up.
He didn't on this round.
It's a mid-1990's creation.
Anyone know anything about it, anyone have one?
Just a little curious.
07 November 2002, 19:40
Mike375Matt,
If you get a 460 Wby and remove the belt and change the shoulder from that rounded shoulder to a normal shoulder and remove the huge freebore of the 460 Wby, you have the 450 Rigby. 450 Dakota is the same.
Both the 450 Rigby/Dakota are a 416 Rigby necked up to 458 and then "Improved" to gain sufficient shoulder for head spacing.
Mike
07 November 2002, 20:32
jrslateI had the opportunity to fire a .450 Rigby on a custom Mauser action (I don't remember the make, but it was from a riflebuilder in Bloemfontein) in July. I know it was very effective on a springbok at 175 yards. That is all I can help you with. Recoil was invigorating.
Joel Slate
Slate & Associates, LLC
www.slatesafaris.com7mm Rem Mag Page
www.slatesafaris.com/7mm.htm08 November 2002, 01:02
Nickudu"Old Sarge" has a custom .450 Rigby that he simply adores. Do a "search" and you may find some of his related posts.
08 November 2002, 07:36
HunterJimMatt77,
I interviewed a KYNAMCO staffer on the development of this cartridge; they did the development work, and I believe are the only ammunition source. I was writing an article on the .450" bore size and magazine rifles at the time.
The basics are a .458"/480 grain bullet (soft and solid) at 2,378 fps muzzle velocity, for 6288 ft-lbf muzzle energy.
If you roll your own necking a .416 Rigby case up will be a bit short according to KYNAMCO, I have not tried it myself. I think the dummy they gave me was an actual .450 cartridge.
It had some very good reports when it first came out, but I have not read anything recently. There are some users on AR, but AR users are, well AR users are a bit different...
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We don't do what everybody does.
I handled a Rigby (of London) rifle chambered in the .450, and it was wonderful I was sorry I didn't have a $9,000 bill in my wallet (the "show price" at that).
jim dodd
08 November 2002, 13:04
OldsargeIf the necked up .416 case is "short" the difference is so slight that you will be hard pressed to find it without a micrometer. Necked up .416's are fully functional and work jes' fahn, thankee. I respect Dave Little greatly but, after all, he is in business to sell ammo and components. If you insist on headstamped brass, Bertram makes them but I wouldn't bother unless I was going to Botswana. That seems to be the only country where it ever matters and sometimes not even there. Figure on a .450 Ackley, Atkins or Lott at lower pressure and you will know what it will do.
08 November 2002, 14:42
ACRecurveHorneber was supposed to make 450 Rigby brass, wasn't he?
08 November 2002, 17:13
NitromanAndy,
Horneber lists it in his catalog for 2.80 Euro bucks each.
08 November 2002, 17:18
MingbogoYes, Horneber is making brass for a bout $2 per case. I have a 450 Rigby rifle in progress and hopefully it will be done in a few weeks.
Oldsarge has sold me a few used cases based on the 416 Rigby brass and they look to be working just fine. The neck would be a little shorter but other than that I think using 416 Rigby brass to make the 450 Rigby would be the way to go. I have some BELL basic cases and will also be trying them out. Have fun.
09 November 2002, 11:40
<Matt77>Thanks everyone.
If it's made, someone at AR has one.
what's horneber's website?