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What are you guys favorite bullet for North America in 375?Mine was the 260 grain Nosler ballistic tip but they have since stopped making the bullet. | ||
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North America or Africa or anywhere....these are great bullets. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Just had a recovery on a 376 steyr... barnes TSX 235 gr... just "coasting" along at 2730ish.. 99.744680851063829787234042553191% weight retention, opened up to about 45 caliber... jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Just seen 2 elk killed with the 260 Accubonds driven to 2900 at the muzzle.......they wizzed right on thru on both That'ud be my choice unless hunting some really thick stuff........ | |||
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I just used a 300gr. Hornady RN on a deer at ~120yds., and it was a bit...expansive, and the bullet was not recovered. Right, Jeff? George | |||
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300 gr nosler partition | |||
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Since the North Fork and 300 Partition are well represented (deservedly so I might add) I'll toss in the 270 TSX. It's my all around favorite for the 375. Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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George, judging form the results, your twist was too slow... you acheived overpenetration!!! and dang good results!! jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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as well as one to lambast recent converts, neither of which are germain to this discussion. Though, dan, the statements of at least one over twist proponent state that softs expand quicker, with faster twist. this statement was not corrected by the "experts" in overtwist, and therefore one can draw the conclusion that the bullet would have opened faster, therefore penetrated less, had the twist been faster. opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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The only one I have ever used on animals has been the Nosler 300 gr. This is the older style where they were made individually on the lathe. Perfect performance on any moose or brown bear I ever shot. But, when my new 375 comes in I will use something newer as my supply is about gone. My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost. | |||
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I like the 270 gr X or TSX in North America driven relatively slowly (2600) ... and the 300 gr TSX in Africa going as fast as I can drive it (2600 fps) with a good pressure margin. I'd use the Africa load for the great bear. I did not like the 260 gr Ballistic Tips ... they shot well on paper, but fragmented on light game. Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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the 270 XLC with 94.5 grns of IMR 4350 in my RUM | |||
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You liked the Ballistic tip, get a bunch of accubonds. I got 10 boxes of factory seconds last time they had any for sale. | |||
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I like the 260 grain Nosler partition at 2700 fps for N.A. use, mostly because it's a proven bullet that shoots into 1/2 MOA in my rifle. The 300 grain TSX at 2500 fps is next. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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300 gr Nosler Partition for brown bear and moose. "We band of 45-70'ers" | |||
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I ordered and loaded up a block of 50 Accubonds last night I have never shot the Accubond before so we shall see.I liked the ballistic tip because it did fragment,I have allways believed that when the bullet exits the other side of the animal that is wasted energy.On thin skinned and light boned North American game I want a bullet to reach the chest cavity and come apart destoying all the organs in the cavity.Now if im in Africa and shooting something of heavier body and attitude of course I want a bullet that goes deep,I am going to try these accubonds out and Im going to try the TSX's next. | |||
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I have not taken any target photos from my accubond load development, but my RUM likes H4350. Real nice groups, even out to 400yd. I need to shoot over a chrono to see whats up. | |||
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Snowwolf1 I have 6 boxes of the old screw machine Nosler 300gr Partitions. I'll sell you one box for an exorbitant amount of $$. 465H&H | |||
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While I do not own a 375 (yet) I would shoot a-frames. | |||
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I have tested the 260 Accubonds and the 260 partitions in numerous test mediums and it is hard to tell any difference in penetration, expansion or weight retention. John Barsness told me his tests were virtually identical to mine. If they shoot well in your rifle I wouldn't hesitated to use them on any N-American game. Only for close range stopping of big bears would I feel a need for a larger, tougher bullet. Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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I'm with you on this one. I have used the Hornady 270 gr in a .375 and was not pleased with it. The Speer 270 gr BTSP has done Ok so far. But IMO the TSX is about the best on the market. ****************************** There comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor polite, nor popular -- but one must ask, "Is it right?" Martin Luther King, Jr. | |||
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The 270 NF at 2700-2750-it will open on any size animal and penetrate as well as most anything on large game. A shot not taken is always a miss | |||
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300 grain Swift A Frame. I have shot from Springbok and Leopard on the light side to Buff and Hippo on the heavy side, worked superbly in all applications. | |||
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I vote for the 260 AccuBond also at 2970fps. | |||
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My favorite is the 250 gr. XFB at about 2600 fps. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Jeffe, My favorite NA bullet for 375 is a 250 grain Bitterroot. If you cant get them anything in North Fork. If yo shoot factory ammo, the 270 grain Power Point is surprisingly effective and indestructible for an unbonded soft point. (It has a 0.049 thick brass jacket). Between 1978 and 1982 I tested every available 375 bullet made at both standard and improved velocities from PB out to 500 yards in 100 yd incriments. (I had alot more free time then than I do now!) I loaded down my improved to normal velocities and repeated tests in 1-8 twist vs 1-12! All of this was published in Bill Steigers, Biterroot Bulletin in 1982. He still has the 20 pages of data available for a couple bucks per article. (Bill is the maker of Bitterroot bullets, the first and still best bonded soft point ever made). Take home lesson was that a "tinfoil" bullet like 270 grain Hornady Spire point or original 300 grain Silvertip, or any of your Speer or Sierras, looses 20-40 more grains and some measurable frontal area with quicker twist while a premium bullet expands more uniformly. I saw no evidence they expanded faster, just could not hold up to additional RV. But the 1-12 bullets were lop-sided and expanded off axis. Quick twist also shot a couple iniches higher at 500 yards than slow twist. Interesting. In real world of bears, bison and elk, quiclk twist also penetrated more, I assume due to more in-line expansion. Bill had so many customers from all over the world that sent him bullets, that he concluded even with his indestructible bullets a quicker than normal twist was beneficial, and you can see it in how the quick twist bullets expand uniformly (in line) vs a slower twist. Remember that this was well known amongst premium bullet shooters and bullet manufacturers 24-26 years ago. Winchester, Sierra, Nosler, Hornady, Speer all talked to me about that very influential article. Sierra even sent some bullets to Bill to bond for them. Quick twist is nothing new. Andy | |||
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The north fork is one very accurate and tough bullet | |||
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My favorite is the 270gr A-frame. I was a 300gr A-frame guy until I tried the 270gr'ers on 7 plains game animals in RSA in 2002 (JJHACKs reloads in his rifle). They were perfect. There are so many great bullets though, its getting down to splitting hairs. Cheers, Canuck | |||
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300 grain Partition. It's killed everything I hit with it. Dave | |||
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Thank you all for your responses.I am going to look into the North Fork bullets as I will the TSX.I love my 375 allthough I will probably never get to put it to the test in Africa(money being the big issue here)I use mine on Elk here in Northern New Mexico.It is by far the best rifle I have ever shot on Elk,I have recently been shooting several different bullets everything from 220 grain Sierras to 300 grain solids.I am trying to find the best bullet for North America.I shoot my 375 at everything from Prarie dogs to Black bear and Elk. | |||
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jeffeosso ... what was the range on that shot? I'm curious how the 235gr TSX will perform out to 300 yards at 375 H&H velocities. Especially now that the BC on the Barnes 375 TSX bullets are considerably lower. | |||
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I don't hunt the "Horrible Bear" so 260gr 'Whitetip' in 2500fps range is just dandy. I luv NO | |||
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I have two boxes of the original 300 gr Nosler Partition screw-turned roundnose bullets looking for a good home. My favorite .375" bullet for North America is the 270 grain. I have a bunch of FailSafes, but I would like to try the Barnes TSX and see if it shoots (I had trouble with the Barnes original X-Bullet). jim if you're too busy to hunt,you're too busy. | |||
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