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Carry a round in the chamber or not?
16 August 2010, 10:26
Joel/AKCarry a round in the chamber or not?
Iys been a while since I read this post and it still seems we are the stereotypical "its unloaded so we are unsafe crowd".
Why is that? No one on here knows me but you all assume I,we are unsafe just cuz we dont want to be rambo or are paranoid in bear country or whatever your reason. I could really give a rats ass. its your life.
My issue is why are we branded for being unsafe cuz we hunt with a cold chamber? I bet know one can give me a good answer.
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16 August 2010, 21:22
465H&Hquote:
Originally posted by Joel/AK:
Iys been a while since I read this post and it still seems we are the stereotypical "its unloaded so we are unsafe crowd".
Why is that? No one on here knows me but you all assume I,we are unsafe just cuz we dont want to be rambo or are paranoid in bear country or whatever your reason. I could really give a rats ass. its your life.
My issue is why are we branded for being unsafe cuz we hunt with a cold chamber? I bet know one can give me a good answer.
Joel,
I don't think that carrying your rifle loaded or empty is inherently more safe, one or the other. It is what you do with the rifle as far as keeping your finger off the trigger, and watching where the muzzle is pointed and of course being sure of your target that are the really important safety protocols. What some are saying is that if it is always loaded once you leave the vehicle, you treated it loaded all the time. If you carry it in the field sometimes empty and sometimes loaded it is easier to get confused as to which condition it currently in and for some people that confusion could lead to an accident.
465H&H
16 August 2010, 21:27
ledvmquote:
My issue is why are we branded for being unsafe cuz we hunt with a cold chamber?
I just think it defies common sense to be "hunting" with out a round in your chamber.
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16 August 2010, 21:28
Idaho SharpshooterIf the rifle is not loaded, you are just out sightseeing...
When you load the rifle, then you are hunting...
Rich
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16 August 2010, 21:53
SnowwolfeInteresting concept, so I guess archery hunters are not hunting unless they have a arrow sitting on there rest ready to draw back?
Hunters who carry without a round in the chamber, archers, and even revolver hunters all have the time to chamber, nock the arrow, or draw and cock after first observing if the trophy is one they want to take. If some of you can't do that and want to have a round in the chamber that is your choice.
Call me a sight seerer. I am ok with that. I enjoy taking my guns out for walks.
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
17 August 2010, 10:29
GanyanaThe two professional Hunters who I know who carry ruger No 1's carry loaded and safety on.
Many , many Pro guides have been 'taught' to carry chamber empty to appease their greenie clients and make them feel safe. From the point of view of the operator this works. The camp manager checks the rifles each morning, makes sure the chambers are empty and then there is no danger of guide shooting a client or some kid playing with the guides gun having an AD...
Only flaw in the system is that when things go wrong the guide dies trying to chamber a round since there is almost never enough time. From the operators point of view..that is fine. The clack of the guide loading his rifle turns many elephant mock charges and persuades the ele to push off and it also tells the clients that things are getting real hot...the casualties are worth it.
Being on the other side...I do not consider my self expendable...greenie clients are - so my rifle is loaded before I leave home and NOBODY touches my rifle - I tell the clients It is loaded and to leave it ALONE! and have never had a problem
17 August 2010, 11:24
boom stickOne of my fave posts here.
quote:
Originally posted by Ganyana:
The two professional Hunters who I know who carry ruger No 1's carry loaded and safety on.
Many , many Pro guides have been 'taught' to carry chamber empty to appease their greenie clients and make them feel safe. From the point of view of the operator this works. The camp manager checks the rifles each morning, makes sure the chambers are empty and then there is no danger of guide shooting a client or some kid playing with the guides gun having an AD...
Only flaw in the system is that when things go wrong the guide dies trying to chamber a round since there is almost never enough time. From the operators point of view..that is fine. The clack of the guide loading his rifle turns many elephant mock charges and persuades the ele to push off and it also tells the clients that things are getting real hot...the casualties are worth it.
Being on the other side...I do not consider my self expendable...greenie clients are - so my rifle is loaded before I leave home and NOBODY touches my rifle - I tell the clients It is loaded and to leave it ALONE! and have never had a problem