I have an older spare tang safety Ruger in 338 win mag, a McMillan to fit it and a 416 cal barrel blank. What could go wrong putting a 416 Ruger into a tang safety?
Anyone done it?
Do you need to load the 416 Ruger longer than the 3.34" mag box? The OAL is listed at 3.34" as well. Is it too tight to work?
I stacked 3-375 Ruger brass down in the mag and closed the bolt so it would appear that the mag is deep enough.
Comments?
Thanks!

Sounds like a great project. I have Alaskans in both 375 and 416. Great standard length cartridges. I think there will be sufficient space in the mag. Keep us posted if you do it.

Thanks JCS.
Well the reamer, brass and dies are ordered.
Stay tuned.

this is the 416 AccRel on an early roundtop ruger tang safety - works fine

The only other modification would be to grind the safety down flat like a shotgun grip safety and checker it..otherwise you will get an educated thumb...Should make a nice gun..

Thanks for the picture Jeff. Nice piece of walnut on that rifle. Most M77's are pretty plain from what I have seen.

For a long time, I had a tang safety in 416 Taylor. The Ruger is pretty close in size and shape. Other than beefing up the bedding to cope with the recoil, I had to get the feed ramp polished a bit as mine worked OK at first, but not DG game rifle smooth. The gunsmith polished it up and it was smooth as silk. I wouldn't flatten the safety if were me. I liked being sure I could push it forward if I needed it.
Sadly I never got to use mine for anything big, so I'm probably not the best advisor on things like the safety botton.
Great project!
Bfly

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Originally posted by Dead Eye:
Thanks for the picture Jeff. Nice piece of walnut on that rifle. Most M77's are pretty plain from what I have seen.

thanks - that's factory wood -- like i said, it's in the first part of the m77s, as it is a round top -- i put an axial pin down the wrist and bedded it with marinetex grey -- do NOT use the marinetex white, as it is more compressive - there is a formula difference between them.. the white is meant to flex

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
otherwise you will get an educated thumb..

1903 springfields cured me of wrapping my thumb around the grip .. short LOP with my gorilla arms, ... well, i needed to wipe my nose, just not at 100 fps under recoil!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Atkinson:
The only other modification would be to grind the safety down flat like a shotgun grip safety and checker it..otherwise you will get an educated thumb...Should make a nice gun..[/QUOT

Strange comment, I have a safe full of the tang guns and it is my bolt action of choice for exactly that reason. I have one in .458. And have never had any problems with a digit.

I put a takeoff 375 Ruger barrel on a tang safety 7mm Rem for one of my guides and with a tiny bit of smoothing and widening the feed ramp it works great

Thanks again for the comments. It should be a good one once I am done.
What are you guys running for barrel length on 416's?
Im thinking 22 or 23".
Likely wont have irons on it.

23 works. I like 21 better

my 416 ruger has a 22 inch obermyer barrel 1:12 twist and runs at 2400 fps with a 400 gn woodleigh with 81 gns of R17

I have been wanting to make the same gun for a while from my Ruger model 77 7/mm rem mag .That tang safety won't bother you at all .I.like it because it fires like a couple barrel shotgun very quick first shot .I hate model 70 Winchester safety it's very slow to get off for a first shot .You could round the corners on the safety if you wanted .I would add two recoil lugs so you didn't bust the stock if your going to shoot it alot ! It will be a fine dangerous gun rifle they are very smooth actions .I have used my Ruger ,77 in 338 win mag 30 years love it !

If your uncomfortable with grinding the safety down flat or flat rounded, and checkering it then just round off the sharp edges I guess...I ground mine sort of a rounded flat...Ive been shooting double shotguns and double rifles for ions as have most DG African hunters, and never have I failed slipping the safety forward, so Im comfortable whith mine, but it may not be for everyone, most things aren't, but its hard to find a double rifle without a shotgun safety.

I wrap my thumb around a grip, but the angle of the grip and LOP should be correct for the owner with any gun IMO...To keep the nose safe from the thumb, cut the comb back about 3/4 to an inch open up the grip and be sure your length of pull is correct for your style of shooting..

Coming along. Needs finishing cerekote and paint but I'm going to try to shoot it this weekend.
Just a tad over 9 lbs as pictured.

Cerakote will be nice but I kind of like contrasting colors. I would be very tempted to leave it as is unless you just want a protective coating on the blue steel receiver. Have fun!

Yeah I don't mind the look now but the barrel is chromoly, and either needs a bluing job or a cerekote. Not really very many guys doing the bluing thing around here so cerekote will likely be best.(?)

If you have that Barrel good and stripped, you could do a Phil Shoemaker Rustoleum special!
Can't beat the quality of the reference.

Ron,

Now for something to kill with your new creation................................

Mark

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Originally posted by MARK H. YOUNG:
Ron,

Now for something to kill with your new creation................................

Mark

Ha ha yes Mark yes! Oil price... oil price...

Shot it for the first time tonight. It doesn't seem like this is going to be a hard rifle to load for.
The 350 Tsx and 400 hornady solids shot very well and to the same poi. Maybe try to squeeze a bit more speed but otherwise I'm very happy with the results

Those velocities are what I use out of my 416 Taylor you can speed the Ruger up for sure.

But I can tell you my Taylor kills well.

I also can vouch for a 350 gr Barnes TSX @ 2450 fps being a very definitive killer. And nice and easy to shoot well.
Nice looking rifle. I had a oem338 Win mag. barrel screwed onto a tang safety Ruger many years ago. That barrel was a stainless steel take off from the action that became my 458. I killed a lot of deer with that 338. Chased a couple bears on foot with it. Shot the heck out of it.

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Just a tad over 9 lbs as pictured

My 416 Taylor built on a Ruger stainless MKII scoped, sling, loaded weighs right at 10lbs balances right in of the front action screw.

With its 25 inch barrel swings and hangs very nice off hand.

No pressure signs here, groups opening up a bit though with 2 gr more RL15.
Really like this round so far. The recoil isn't excessive.
Compared to a Mk2, the tang safety has an adjustable trigger which I like. Set at 3 lbs makes it easier to shoot off the bench.
Got a lee crimp die for it too. I have found that a light crimp is best for accuracy on anything that requires a crimp. Too much crimp, groups expand.

Got it back from Kaber Arms who did a great job on the cerekote.
All done now and ready to hunt.

Very nice rifle. Congratulations!

I have a Ruger 77-tang rifle in 7 mm rem mag that needs the same thing done to. WHERE do you get those stocks .I want stainless barrel for Alaska 416 with tang safety .I hate model 70-safety rifles can't Shoot then quick .I have hunted 32-years with my tang safety Ruger 77-338 win mag cab shoot it first shot like a fine double shotgun.Those old Rugers are awesome my 338 still shoots clover leads ! The 416 Ruger would be awesome for Alaska.I just wish a 416-Ruger Alaskan barrel would fit it so it would have Ruger sites also !
That is an awesome rifle you have there !

Thanks for the complements.
The stock is a vintage Mcmillan Ruger type R I bought used, but in good shape. Cheap too.
The barrel was a second hand unfired blank, 1/2 price.
The rifle was a 338 win mag with a chipped tang with an old bushnell lite-site scope that came out of the eastern US. Got it as part of a package...
I enjoy sourcing out good value in bits and pieces. Then combining them. Often I have no idea why I'm buying a barrel or a stock, or a gun, but my hesitation is forgotten once something new is assembled.
Good luck in your 416 build off a 7 mag.

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Originally posted by dgr416:
I have a Ruger 77-tang rifle in 7 mm rem mag that needs the same thing done to. WHERE do you get those stocks .I want stainless barrel for Alaska 416 with tang safety The 416 Ruger would be awesome for Alaska.I just wish a 416-Ruger Alaskan barrel would fit it so it would have Ruger sites also !
That is an awesome rifle you have there !

The modern Alaskan bbls will screw right on the older M 77 receivers, and you even have a 1/360 degree chance the sights will line up correctly. But it's no problem rotating the Ruger front sight.