Hey Guys,

Looking at the dimensions I think I can take 416 Remington brass and run it through a full length 470 Capstick die and have brass for my
470 Capstick, does anyone know if this will work ?

Thanks,

BTH

Probably not well. That is a huge jump (.416 to .474). You can buy 470 capstick brass from www.huntingtons.com

I've made .470 Capstick cases from .375H&H cases, but I stepped them to .400" first, then .458", and finally .475".

Unless you have a very carefully tapered mandrel in that sizing die, chances are you will not be able to go from .416" to .475" in one pass.

George

of course, if you aren't concerned about headstamp, you can buy HH basic (hornady).. iirc, midway had a stock on hand

jeffe

Would it work to size 458 Lott brass up to .475 or run .416 brass through a Lott die as an intermediate step?

Andy

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Originally posted by adrook:
Would it work to size 458 Lott brass up to .475 or run .416 brass through a Lott die as an intermediate step?

Andy

Yes, and yes. Use dry lube on the case mouth and a good lube like Imperial/Redding Sizing Die Wax.

George

Hi Borntohunt,
YOu could always fire form the 416 Rem brass. Just load 17 to 20 grains of Bulls eye pistol powder, put a small (SMALL) amount of cotton batton to hold the powder against the primer and then load the case with cereal (Red River Porridge) to just shy of the neck. Finish loading the case to the top of the mouth with wax. Prep a bunch of cases and get a bar of parrifin wax, use a torch to heat the wax and let it pour into the case mouths one after the other. Just take the loads out and point them straight up in the air and touch them off. This will fire form them to 470 Capstick. This procedure doesn't take very long and is very easy.
Take good care,
Dave

I agree that it is best to size the Hornady basic down to .475 caliber and trim to 2.850" max brass length. I started off with some HDS and Bell brass with proper headstamp, but the Hornady basic is what I settled on for large volume supply. It is very nicely priced and high quality.

All the other methods produce short brass, and are tedious and produce lower quality results than using the Hornady basic just run through the Capstick sizing die.

That Hornady basic brass has only an "H" as the headstamp, and would be easy to engrave with "470 C" in all that remaining blank space.

Thanks everybody,

As always there is a lot of information out there and all of your inputs are greatly appreciate. I guess I will go the Hornady Basic route. But I'm just wondering is the Basic brass to long to begin with and you have to trim it before you size it ?

Thanks Again,

BTH

Go here, at less than $100 for 100 pieces it is a deal and you dont have to mess with it.

buffalo arms capstick brass

I bought some a few weeks ago and it works great

Thanks Idahoelk101, I'm just wondering who makes it ?

Thanks,
BTH

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Originally posted by borntohunt:
... I'm just wondering is the Basic brass to long to begin with and you have to trim it before you size it ?
BTH

The Hornady basic brass is about 2.865" to 2.870" long, and straight cylindrical.

I run mine through the 470 Capstick sizing die first (RCBS), and it might grow a thou or two more. Then trim. That has worked for me. Max brass length is 2.850" and trim-too length is 2.840" for the 470 Capstick.

You always want to trim to uniform length after sizing, with any brass, new or old, of course. Your dies should allow the basic to be sized before trimming. No double trimming operation should be required.

You might also want to grab some of the BELL brass that idahoelk101 has pointed you to. They quit making it several years ago. Jamison International is probably making it better nowadays anyway.

When I got my Hornady basic it was sold in boxes of 50 for less than 50 bucks. It should still be a bargain.

bth, that's BELL brass. The first three letters in the code will tell you who the maker is-BEL. If it was that crappy Bertram, it would be BER, etc.

And the link spells it out too:
"470 Capstick Bell Cases"

www.hornady.com
shows:
Belted Mag Case Basic Family
Item # 8796
$45.80 for a box of 50

Just size it and trim it and it is the best brass available for a 470 Capstick. Just have to scratch a "470 C" on the blank headstamp.

475 is right, it is Bell from before they sold the company. A few of the pieces in my lot were not head stamped, but thats ok as I will just use those for load development. I am a little bit of a shopper (read "cheap") and this was the best solution I could find.
Lots of luck!
Ken

26 bucks for 20
http://www.huntingtons.com/cases_bell.html