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CDNN has the Remington 798 in both .375 H&H and .458 Win Mag for $499 for laminate stocks and $599 for walnut stocks. I have a CZ550 in .375H&H and have been thinking about moving up. At this price, I'm seriously considering getting one of these in .458 Win Mag. I won't be hunting dangerous game in the near future, but it would be a great pig thumper and plinker. On the other hand, these have generally gotten mixed reviews, and the ones I've handled have been a bit on the rough side. But for the price, it could be a fun shooter.

Does anyone have any thoughts one way or the other?

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LWD
 
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I doubt that you could put together a huntable big-bore for less money.


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The Rem 798 is the same metal work as the older MkX and I built my 458 on one of their barreled actions over twenty five years ago. I slicked it up a bit and over time it has only gotten better.
They are of very good quality and vastly under rated by most arm chair connoisseurs.


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The 798 is pretty much the MKX and Daly. Same action used on the Whitworth years ago. Yes it has Rem on it it needs smoothing and last I checked needs open sights. But for $499 would make a heck of a 458.


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I dont see these on the Remington website. Is there someplace on the web with technical info, name of maker etc...

Are these mauser type actions? Like cz?

As for price, I have seen respectable brand name 458's well-used in the $500-600 price range. For instance, interarms mauser 458. Maybe a local recession thing, or just one of those things. There were some 458 CZ in a special buy deal, for around $800, or so - new. Those are all gone now.

I also wonder if Ruger might offer the 458 in alaskan or african, under $1,000? Then $5-600 is a lot less.
 
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For the purposes you mentioned, I'd do it. I have an Interarms version in the same cal. I always thought mine was better than any CZ I've seen. I've heard the remingtons were a bit rougher, but I bet it still shoots well out of the box. The one good thing is that this is such a common platform that most gunsmiths know just what to tweak to fix any minor issues, or to make it more reliable if you need that in the future.
 
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Wasn't Midway offering barreled actions in these things a few months ago for downright cheap prices?
If I didn't already have a few set aside already I would order another one. They also have great barrels. I have had a number of MkX rifles in a few calibers and everyone shot fantastic.


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fourbore, Commercial 98, made by Zastava in Czechoslovakia (sp?). Good strong actions, a bit rough, but a good place to start. For $499, I don't think you could go wrong. The action alone is worth at least $300 I'd think. Maybe more NIB. CDNN likely bought them from "Big Green" on a closeout deal. They were around $700+/- if I remember right.

I'd say that's a good buy. Even if a bit rough, it's a servicable action with a lot of potential. I'd dump the stock immediately and do something different, but that's me.
 
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yes, and run my 458 AccRel reamer in it, no other changes


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
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Hi LWD,

I just bought one last week. For a 100% accurate rifle, it's going to need alittle work. My bolt face needs lapped and my trigger needs some adjustment. The stock is bedded but how well I can't tell as I didn't have a action bolt wrench(it's in the mail as we speak).

The trigger is easy to adjust too 2/lbs. (I also purchased a couple M#798 in 30-06 ($330eh) for future builds and adjusted those triggers with ease)

Fit and finish is acceptable for a production rifle in high gloss.

Overall I'm pleased at $500. I bought the rifle too throw some 522gn cast down range with black powder Smiler


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Buy! For that price, buy it.

The barrelled actions are made for Remington by Zastava in Serbia. The action is almost identical to the esteemed FN Supreme action.

Some further reading on the Remington 798:

Craig Boddington's opinion

Rifle Shooter Mag review

Compared with the CZ 550 by Chuck Hawks

The Gun Nut (Field and Stream)

Unfortunately due to the recession Remington has (temporarily they say) stopped importing & producing these.
 
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Thank you all for the replies. For the price, I doubt I can go wrong. Here's the link to the information about them on the Remington website. They've moved it to the "archived" area.

LWD
 
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On the older ones the barrels were a bit soft but they were good rifles and a steal at the CDNN blowout price. Buy 2!
 
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CDNN still has some of these. I have been considering getting one. I just need some help deciding what it will be when it grows up. Suggestions? I already own a couple 375 and 458s.


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DC,
just to clarify. it is a standard mauser with a 3.65" mag.. it is NOT a magnum mauser ... that is a $2200 action ,, the mark x is a commerical 98 ..


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
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Hey Jeff, any suggestions for what to make a 458 into?


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LOL, Mike, yeah.. a 458 AccRel! its rent a reamer, do a little feeding, (might need it on a markX) and a set of dies .. BOOM, full power loads!

but, the 458 winmag is also a great round .. just realize it MAY not make 2150 all the time ..

but 350gr jacketed bullets at 2200 will smash the thin skinned non dangerous animals


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
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Can someone post a link to these on cdnn? I looked a couple days ago and couldn't find them.

Thanks,

David
 
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The link isnt on the website. It was sent out in an email. Just give them a call.


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DC,
just to clarify. it is a standard mauser with a 3.65" mag.. it is NOT a magnum mauser ... that is a $2200 action ,, the mark x is a commerical 98 ..


Jeff,

Does that mean that the action on the .375s and .458 is the same length as those used for the 7mm and 300? Thanks.
 
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Buy! For that price, buy it.

The barrelled actions are made for Remington by Zastava in Serbia. The action is almost identical to the esteemed FN Supreme action.

Some further reading on the Remington 798:

Craig Boddington's opinion

Rifle Shooter Mag review

Compared with the CZ 550 by Chuck Hawks

The Gun Nut (Field and Stream)

Unfortunately due to the recession Remington has (temporarily they say) stopped importing & producing these.


Has a gun writer ever criticized a Remington rifle? No, it would death by starvation when or if they did.

This rifle is an average quality, average accuracy rifle made for the masses. I would love to hear one writer or one experienced dangerous game hunter say - "Wow! This is what I have been waiting for. I will sell my Model 70 or my Browning or my CZ for this great new rifle". You won't hear that.

Makes me wonder why?
 
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There are certainly much higher quality and much more expensive choices available. Still, this is a great entry level for someone. Not everyone can afford 5k for a custom rifle.

Jeff I know your 458 is a nice cartridge. However, I already own a couple 458s. I was looking to see if it was possible to do something bigger on one of these actions. It appears it wouldnt be practical or maybe even possible since this is a standard length action.


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Can do a lott, or ackely, without change the barrel .. but it'll cost .. either money or looks .. if you REALLY get bored, the 550 express fits nicely in them .. as would a 500 AR ...


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
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DC,
just to clarify. it is a standard mauser with a 3.65" mag.. it is NOT a magnum mauser ... that is a $2200 action ,, the mark x is a commerical 98 ..


Jeff,

Does that mean that the action on the .375s and .458 is the same length as those used for the 7mm and 300? Thanks.


DC,
a qualified, yes they are.

and, the 450,300,7 is the same bottom metal .. the 375 is the variant.
the distance between the screws, 8.75, is identical, and other than being whittled on, the 243 is the same as the 375 action

A magnum mauser is either 9.15 or 9.25 (magnum or brevex, respectively), and not 8.75.


If you are a car guy, and know chevy motors ..
a 260/283/302/305/327/350/400 is a small block, and a 396/et al is a big block .. and there's a world of difference in them .. and yeah, i did say chevy 302 .. the best motor EVER .. 327 small journal with a 283 crank ...


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
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Thanks. Smiler
 
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Below is my boolit that I plan on using. This will be at a 3.64 COL and will feed ok but I will need to manualy remove a loaded cartridge as the tip hangs on the receiver upon ejection of a live round.

This is fine by me as I plan to single feeding each round as I'm only shooting 1000yds plus.

.459 @ 522gn



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