Just returned from local gun shop, saw a Holland&Holland Mannlicher Schonauer take down. The rifle was marked Holland .375 Express. Is this a 9.5x56MS or is this a H&H .375 rimless. It is my understanding that the MS never made a magnum length action.

Jim, others more knowledgeable here will confirm, but I believe the 375 Express was a 405 Winchester necked down to 375. It is NOT a 375 H&H. I've seen a number of early British rifles chambered as such.

I think that is the velocopede belted round but I might be wrong.

Being a MS based rifle, probably the .375 Rimless NE (2 1/4") which is the British designation for the 9.5mm MS.

Thanks for the help. Craigster is spot on. After posting the origional thread I found a reference that confirmed the info.

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Originally posted by srose:
I think that is the velocopede belted round but I might be wrong.

I think you are talking about the 400/375 ?

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It is definitely the 9.5X57 MS. I have seen one at H&H Manhattan which is from their collection. the young gentleman there kindly allowed me to take photos.







This is my take down rifle retailed by another British gun house - You can see the "NOT MADE IN ENGLAND" stamp on the barrel shank.