not mine, but given all that it's got - it seems like a good buy at less than 7K. http://www.michaelmerker.com

In my opinion there is not a 458 made that is worth 7,000. Although the gun looks nice, if I were to pay that much i would want it from a well known maker. Why not buy a Ruger and pocket the rest of the money?

Then that's probably not the gun for you.

It's an attrative looking rifle for sure.

Yea!

Really a nice looking rifle but I'd HAVE to have the scope lower and farther from my eye.

Rich Elliott

I could have the same rifle made (including the integral rib and front sight) for about $3500.

Why pay more?

It does look nice however.

Garrett

NG,who would do the work for you?have a transition M-70 action375 length,looking for a reasonable quality smith.e-mail me Kimroux7@wmconnect.com if you have time.thanks

This same rifle was on sale with a different dealer on Gunsamerica for $ 6000 some months ago.

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Originally posted by N. Garrett:
I could have the same rifle made (including the integral rib and front sight) for about $3500.

Why pay more?

It does look nice however.

Garrett

I'd love to know where to get that done! Seriously, I've got an action ready to go. Just need the integral component barrel, stock blank, stock built and swarovski 30mm scope with claw mounts.

Who do I call to get it all for 3500.00?

New Guy!

Give Al and Roger Biesen a call. They can probably come close to $3,500 for what you want. 509-328-6818

465H&H

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Originally posted by 465H&H:
New Guy!

Give Al and Roger Biesen a call. They can probably come close to $3,500 for what you want. 509-328-6818

465H&H

Called Biesen's... they don't do the integral barrels anymore. Whomever used to do them for Biesen passed away.

FYI - They said that integral barrel with rib, sight and barrel band cost about $1500... three (3) years ago.

And to try Fred Wells.

That barrel new is probably $2000 or more. I base that on Lothar walther wanting $1200 apiece for a plainer one, minimum order 6.

Then the stock blank is pretty decent; $600 is allowing for a whole lotta luck. Probably $900-$1100 retail but we'll use $600.

Action (assuimg bells & whistles are already there: $500

Bottom metal, $300

Grip cap, pad, swivel studs $75

Scope and rings are: $1000

Total parts before any work: $ 4475

Honsetly, I don't think Al Biesen is going to pay me $975 in cash to take a similar rifle off his hands.

I think there could be well over $4000 in additional work on that rifle. (Hell, our local stockmaker starts at $3600 for a stock job last time I saw his web page. Granted he's a name brand and making heirloom guns but even no-namers won't do one for much less than $1200).

Then add the stippling on the rib, gold inlay and engraving; excellent fit and finish as far as can be seen by the visible inletting.

You could not build one just like it for any where near that price, IMO.

new_guy,if you find anyone please let me know.thanks,kim

Richard Stickley did a similar barrel for me in 35 Whelen AI for about $1200 in 1994 or so.
He is in Pocatello Idaho, but I haven't chatted with him a few years, since I haven't done another barrel like that (intergral rib, front sight, and barrel band).

I would do the math this way:
Barrel: $1500
Action: $300
Wood: $400
Stock making: $900
'Smith putting it together: $500
That's $3600.

Garrett

N. Garret, if you can steer me to a source of surface ground, trued Mauser actions with Blackburn bottom metal, replacement bolt handle, aftermarket trigger (looks to be a Blackburn also) and custom side safety I'd sure give a 10% finder's fee for the 10 I bought for $3000.

Maybe Mark Stratton or another of our professionals can chip in and give us a market range for that type of barrel work in today's dollars?

I purchased a CD action for $238.
Had Mark Stratton surface grind it for $162
Purchased a .4105 barrel from I.D.&T. for about $150
New Timney trigger off Ebay $40
Gentry 3 position safety $130
Gentry Install (at Gentry) $60
Had Randy Selby chamber it for 400 Whelen Ackley Improved, true the action, and lap the lugs for $300
Total $1080
Cost of shooting neighbors mower at 3am: Priceless

Garrett

Forgot...

Engraved bolt knob (Jerome Glimm) $120
Installation for bolt knob with jeweling (Skip Baldwin) $75

New Guy!

My appologies! I read your wish list too quickly and missed your integral barrel/rib requirement.

465H&H

nice rifle..
i don't think i could build a copy for myself for 3500.. using my machines and tools.

the barrel would alone would be 1500-1800 and 1/2 year wait... if i had to buy it.


jeffe

I think I waited more like 18 months for a similar barrel.

But worth it.

Garrett

I think I could pass on that allen wrench looking barrel.

I could be wrong, but I don't think those are QD scope rings.

Hardly seems worth the effort for all those fancy folding sights when they aren't usable...

Yes, they are detachable.

Those are claw mounts.

Figure in another 800 bucks for the mounts and installation.

I just read the write-up on the sellers sight.. what an excellent gun...

and just a rechamber away from 458 AR

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Custom 458 Winchester Magnum Mauser by Mark Moon of Grand Junction, Colorado. Oberndorf 98 Mauser action, surface ground & polished inside and out; 5-panel custom bolt knob with fine borders; 2 position safety; 4-shot blackburn drop box and trigger; hand-built claw mount system with EAW rings holding a Schmidt Bender 1.1 x 4 - 30 mm scope; full custom-machined octagon barrel with integral rib, raised quarter rib, front sight base, sling eye and 2nd recoil lug. Beautifully contoured and hand-polished barrel including hand-matted and border-rib top surface with gold-lined express sights. Classically stocked in highly figured California English walnut with ebony tip, trap grip and point-pattern checkered (26 LPI) with finely-detailed mullered borders.
This is an extremely high quality and well built rifle that functions flawlessly, built by an individual with attention to detail of all aspects from form to function.

Fitted claw mounts run $600-$800, FWTW. Man, if I had 7 grand to blow I'd step on that one right away. It just calls to me.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
I just read the write-up on the sellers sight.. what an excellent gun...

and just a rechamber away from 458 AR

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Custom 458 Winchester Magnum Mauser by Mark Moon of Grand Junction, Colorado. Oberndorf 98 Mauser action, surface ground & polished inside and out; 5-panel custom bolt knob with fine borders; 2 position safety; 4-shot blackburn drop box and trigger; hand-built claw mount system with EAW rings holding a Schmidt Bender 1.1 x 4 - 30 mm scope; full custom-machined octagon barrel with integral rib, raised quarter rib, front sight base, sling eye and 2nd recoil lug. Beautifully contoured and hand-polished barrel including hand-matted and border-rib top surface with gold-lined express sights. Classically stocked in highly figured California English walnut with ebony tip, trap grip and point-pattern checkered (26 LPI) with finely-detailed mullered borders.
This is an extremely high quality and well built rifle that functions flawlessly, built by an individual with attention to detail of all aspects from form to function.

Go, Jeffe, Go!