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404 J donor action
Hi folks,
I'm thinking of getting myself a 404 Jeffery for all the best reasons (I want to and I can). The problem is finding one in Canada. For the same time and money it would take to get a CS 550 into Canada, I could have a rifle built. What would be your reccomendation for an action to build the rifle around?
Dean
...I say that hunters go into Paradise when they die, and live in this world more joyfully than any other men.
-Edward, Duke of York
24 March 2006, 02:32
jeffeossoyou can't build one cheaper than CZ... sorry...
and if you did, it would only hold 2 down, unless you spend 500-750 more for custom bottom metal and stockpattern
in USD
550 CZ is what, 1500 bucks?
building the EASIEST one, on a win model 70 in .300 rum
600 - action
200 - barrel
200 - sights
200 (too low) stock blank
200 - chamber and headspace
200 - polish, blue, misc gunsmithing
$300 - cheapest possible stock turning and checkering
that's 1900 bucks... and you've got a fair stock... for 1900 bucks, you can get a great wood upgrade and have CZ bedded and crossbolt it
jeffe
jeffe,
That is what I originally had in mind, but things aren't that simple on this side of the border, at least for that particular rifle. Through my favourite gun shop, I got a cost estimate from the Canadian distributor for CZ (London Arms)on a CS 550 in 404J, ~$2800 CDN! (~US $2400) For that price I could buy a new CZ and have it rechambered & rebarrelled with cash left over. London Arms didn't have any in stock and would have to import one from the US (6-8 months). There is a rumour that one of the big chains (Wholesale Sports) has signed a deal with CZ to be their Canadian distributor, cutting the current one out of the picture. Maybe this has something to do with the high price estimate, he didn't want the hastle when he was soon to be out of the picture.
I'll keep my eyes open at the local gun show in a couple weeks. Maybe I can pick up a .300 RUM.
Thanks,
Dean
...I say that hunters go into Paradise when they die, and live in this world more joyfully than any other men.
-Edward, Duke of York
I do not know anything about cross border shipping of firearms but it may be worth your while to give CZ in the US a call.
I thought CZ customs could be ordered directly from CZ, if that's the case may be CZ can handle the shipment for you to your dealer????
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Originally posted by jjs:
I thought CZ customs could be ordered directly from CZ, if that's the case may be CZ can handle the shipment for you to your dealer????
Good thought, I didn't know about the possiblity of ordering directly from CZ. The guys at the shop were just going through the normal channels.
Dean
...I say that hunters go into Paradise when they die, and live in this world more joyfully than any other men.
-Edward, Duke of York
24 March 2006, 03:12
free_minerquote:
Originally posted by maki:
Good thought, I didn't know about the possiblity of ordering directly from CZ. The guys at the shop were just going through the normal channels.
Dean
www.questar.ca will import from the US for $150 cdn
24 March 2006, 11:04
BigFiveJackWashington State U.S.A.
www.rifleactions.com WFF HEIN.
Great value for the money spent, action alone $1950-, Bbl/act $2300-, whole rifle $2700-, they build actions right there from scratch.
5 rounds total, 4 plus 1. I have a 450 DAKOTA calibered rifle from them.
Jack
OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.}
24 March 2006, 13:45
RustyWhat about
Montana Rifle Co.?
Other than open the bolt face a bit I don't think Tip Burns has had to do anything to the Long Action for my 404 Jeffery projects.
Montana now makes a .423 barrel.
Rusty
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24 March 2006, 20:17
RustyJust got off the phone with Jon at MRC.
Chrome Moly barreled action 404 Jeffery in the white, $806, Blued $926.
I'd call that reasonable!
Rusty
We Band of Brothers!
DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member
"I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends."
----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836
"I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”
24 March 2006, 22:22
465dbkRusty,
Whats the magazine capacity on your MRC 404 Jeffery?
Bruce
24 March 2006, 23:26
RustyI haven't gotten it yet. The metal is over at Roger Kehr's place get'n purty'd up!
Rusty
We Band of Brothers!
DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member
"I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends."
----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836
"I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”
Rusty,
Hope all is well with you!
What type of "purty'd up" treatment is Roger Kehr doing on your 404 Jeffery?...and please post some pics when available...Thanks!
So, I just got off the phone with MRC and there is no problem getting one of their products across the border. They are back ordered and a 16 wk delivery time was estimated. So far, I'm impressed with the action, but I did a quick search on old AR threads and came up with some concerns people had with the action when applied to a 404J. The first was feeding and the second was magazine capacity. The salesman I spoke to at MRC wasn't sure but guessed a Montana 1999 would hold 3 down and 1 up. A number of posters on AR thought 2 down and 1 up. Anyone have some experience with either of these questions?
Thanks,
Dean
P.S. I didn't think to ask when the PH action might come out. Anyone know?
...I say that hunters go into Paradise when they die, and live in this world more joyfully than any other men.
-Edward, Duke of York
25 March 2006, 03:13
Idaho Sharpshooterthey told me (two weeks back) that the two I have ordered would be in my fat, little fingers before Christmas, PROMISE!!!!!!
Rich
PS: 550 Magnum and a 500 of some ilk, preferably a rimless case...Gibbs or Jefferys.
25 March 2006, 17:31
momccarttmy mcr 404 will hold 3 down and 1 up