If I am going to pack a large action that it takes to feed a 416 Rigby then by god I'm going to pack a rifle that really has punch, like a 505 Gibbs...

I settled on a 416 rem because mine weighs 9 lbs. loaded with scope, and is as slim as a fashion model, easy to pack..I load it at about 2300 to 2400 FPS with a 400 gr. flat nose solid from GS Customs, and 400 gr. Nosler, or North Fork Softs or the wonderful 450 Gr. Woodleigh RN soft...

I have never had a hint of a problem with pressure or killing buffalo, elephant or lion and I have seen it work wonders on Hippo...

If the pressure business were true then the 270, 300s and a host of others are in dire straits also, thats bunk, and thats caused by putting to damn much powder in a case, any case.....

As to feeding problems, that like Allens said is gunsmith problems not cartridge design, the belted case has been in Africa 200 years and has a pretty darn good track record..everybody in Africa owns at least one 300 H&H and 2 375s, least they be viewed as light in the shorts you know!

This 416 Rem vs 416 Rigby thread and the 45-70 thread is just a bunch of bunk by folks that need to get a full time job, they got to damn much time on their hands..

Shoot the one that suits YOU, you can't go wrong, unless your shooting a 45-70

Yep,
Either one is fine. Adding a scope to a .416 takes advantage of one of it's strengths as a fine long range plains game cartridge. Those who don't scope a .416 Remington are obviously afraid of scope-bite.

Those who don't scope a .416 Rigby are understandable as a salute to the likes of John Taylor, Harry Selby, Samaki Salmon, Tony Sanchez-Arino and others who used the Rigby heavily and sang it's praise, some preferring it exclusively for elephant and anything else. I doubt that any of them would want to swap a Rigby for a Remington.

But, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a .416 Remington, a wonderful thing in a synthetic stock and WITH A SCOPE so as not to waste its potential.

And .416 Rigby's can be made as light and short as most .416 Remingtons are, though just a little bigger in the middle for the same magazine capacity, like most of us with some age on us.

Z1r I am looking for laoding data on the Rigby and that powder. Got chapter and verse? Thanks, David

Sure, Here is a link to accurate's data:

http://www.accuratepowder.com/data/PerCaliber2Guide/Rifle/Standarddata(Rifle)/416Cal(10.57mm)/416%20Rigby%20page%20329.pdf

I'm using the RCBS 350 flatpoint.

ZD,

I know. Compared to that Dakota, the 416 Rem is like a DGR for sissies.

I have hunted Africa with the 416 Rem since its birth, I have hunted in some terrible heat and in the cold, I load to 2400 FPS, I have never had a stuck case nor even a sticky bolt or flat primer..I load 78 to 80 grs. of RL-15 with any 400 gr. bullet. If your case sticks in your 416 Rem then the truth is you overloaded it and the rest is bullshit..

I have never cut my eye, and when you do its not the Leupold scope (they have the most eye releif) its your own dumb ass, the stock is too short or you set the scope back to far..Any quality scope today has enough eye releif that there is little excuse for that to happen...

My question is how such a ridiculas thread as the 416 Rigby vs. the 416 Rem can stir up so much BS, they are both fine cartridges, take your pick, you can't go wrong either way which makes such threads nothing more than "mines bigger than yours, naaa, naaa!

RIP,

Great job, you bagged another lying troll there! Boy, you are good!! You caught Zero Drift just like you caught me. Maybe Zero Drift oughta just come clean now, like I did.

Zero Drift, that is a very nice collection of Dakota rifles you posted there! Very nice, indeed. Where on earth did you steal that picture from on the internet?

ASS_CLOWN

AC - Just because you are liar does not make everyone else one. The cartridge pictured with my .450 Dakota was a .450 Dakota.

These are my rifles and not from the Internet. I visited Don and Norma Allen in Sturgis when I placed my order for the rifles. Don and I spend the afternoon inspecting his collection of Bastogne in order to find 4 matched stocks. We worked through all the details that I wanted in the rifles and 7 months later, they were delivered.

Sorry to burst your little bubble...

Yes by the logic alot of these posts are going by, we should all get on the horn to SSK Ind. and have them make us some 950 JDJs to lug around. So they weigh 110+ pounds, go lift some weights! (3600 ish grain bullet at about 2200 FPS, anything less is for GIRLYMEN!!)

ZD,

The only thing I can think of is you're on vacation, and bored. I can't believe you are responding to this stuff.

Bill - All of the above. I am currently on vacation and will be for the next 10 days. That means that I will be lurking around more than usual. Scary I know...

I don't think that anyone doubts Zero Drift here. Just a funny illusion created by the lighting of the 450 Dakota cartridge. AC creates no guilt by association. He is in a class all his own. Now back to some boring vacation time. Happy 4th.

RIP,

I know I have posted more picture of MY rifles here at AR than you have posted pictures of YOUR rifles.

I also know that I could shove everyone of my rifles up your (you know what) and you would still say I was lying about owning any of them!

Just a little good-natured fun.

Have a happy 4th and don't blow yourself up!

ASS_CLOWN

Well, that did it, AC, the most obnoxious troll I can think of, considering his persistence especially, is the first to make my ignore list. Nevermore will he pollute this screen. I should have done that a long time ago.



*** You are ignoring this user *** sure is an improvement across the board.

There is a super special button for AC:

*****You Are Ignoring This Loser *******