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Is there an advantage of a Rem choke tube over a Win? Are there any differences? I need to have a tube fitted to a shortened single barrel and have no background on choke tubes. All I want is for it to be flush with the end of the barrel and effective. | ||
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Find if they are good for steel shot. No matter what they say you still have to pattern the loads - for your gun, and your ammo !! | |||
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The threads are different on Rem and Win. Might be something to consider if you have tubes for another gun. Never heard of one being better than the other. | |||
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best bet is to talk with Brileys' in Houston.... they can tell you over the phone what is d0-able or not.... go big or go home ........ DSC-- Life Member NRA--Life member DRSS--9.3x74 r Chapuis | |||
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The threaded chokes are usually put into barrels that have been slightly expanded during manufacturing so you probably won't have enough barrel wall thickness to be able to choose a standard factory choke design. In that case you'll need to choose a thinwall design like Briley. They've done more of those installations than anyone else. They can even slightly change the point-of-impact during installation if needed. | |||
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Mike Orlen does choke tubes for a living. He's worked on a couple of my shotguns; prices are reasonable and turnaround is fast. His phone # is 413 256 1630. email is michael.orlean@verizon.net His instructions are simple: decide what you want, ship the barrel with a check, and you'll have your barrel back in about two-three weeks. He spends his day working on barrels so don't expect long conversations over a couple cups of coffee. | |||
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I have been amazed at how differently shells from various manufacturers will pattern in a fixed choke gun. Before spending the money for chokes (after which you have to find the loads that give you the patterns you want anyway), I would try different commercial loads. You might be surprised. | |||
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I agree with JonP- pattern your gun with various commercial shot shells to see how it patterns on paper at 30-40 yds. Depending on what you will be shooting/hunting, you may like the results from some shot shells. If not then a threaded choke and then again pattern various shot shells with it. | |||
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First off Ya'll missed it is a shortened single barrel shot gun. Probable means the original choke of the shot gun was cut off. I bought two boxes of 20ga shells last week end. The first factory shells I have shot since the 1970's. Just didn't have the time to set down and reload a couple boxes before I needed them. So using reloads pattering different factory brands isn't an option. I my self would get the rem chokes as they are easy to find, I have even seen them at Wal Mart. Al Garden View Apiaries where the view is as sweet as the honey. | |||
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Here is a interchange chart. Carlson's Choke Tubes, LLC Choke Tube Interchange Guide Please Note: This list is to be used soley as a guide. There are always exceptions. Download a pdf copy of the Carlson's Choke Tube Interchange Guide (updated 09/22/2016) If you have questions, please give us a call or e-mail us at customerservice@choketube.com Never force-thread a choke into a barrel. Weatherby PA & SA 459 Home Defense Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Weatherby Orion & Athena Interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads Verona 501 20ga Interchanges with Carlson's Huglu style threads TriStar TSA 3 1/2" Semi Auto (serial# higher than 11/16240) Interchanges with Carlson's Optima Plus choke style threads TR Imports Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Mossberg 535 Turkey Thug Interchanges with Carlson's Mossberg 835/935 style threads Franchi (Made After 1998) 12ga, 20ga, & 28ga (excluding 28ga Aspire) Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads (612, 712, I-12, Instinct, Renaissance, Fenice, Intensity, Affinity) Cortona No known interchange Connecticut Shotgun Co. Interchanges with Carlson’s standard Tru-Choke style threads Chiappa Triple Threat & Crown, M6 & C6 Pump Interchanges with Carlson’s Remington style threads Chiappa CA612 Semi Auto: Interchanges with Carlson’s Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads American Tactical Imports (ATI) Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Akkar Interchanges with Carlson's Remington style threads American Arms (threads located at bottom of choke) Interchanges with Carlson's American Arms Fausti/Traditions shotguns style threads American Arms (threads located at top of choke) Interchanges with Carlson's Fran Choke style threads Antonio Zoli No known interchange Austin & Halleck Black Powder Shotgun Interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads Baikal/European American Arms Interchanges with Carlson's standard Tru Choke style threads Benelli Current production Benelli's have 1 of 2 systems--see identification page in catalog if your unsure of which style Benelli Mobil (Flush choke is 2" with threads at top) Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads (SBE I, Nova & Super Nova, M-4, Ethos, Legacy, Montefeltro made prior to 2007) Benelli Crio/Crio Plus (Flush choke is 2.75" w/threads 3/4" from top) Interchanges with Carlson's Crio/Crio Plus (Super Black Eagle 2 & 3, M-2, Vinci, Ultra Light and current Sport II, Super Sport, Cordoba, Montefeltro, & 828U) Benelli Crio (Flush choke is 2.75" long w/threads at top) No longer being used-- limited use in Sport II and SuperSport and Cordoba produced prior to 2006 Benelli (older models imported by HK) No known interchange Beretta Beretta Shotguns have 1 of 4 different choke systems--See identification page in catalog if you're unsure of which style Beretta Mobil (Flush choke is 2" w/threads at top) Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads (A-300 Outlander, all 390, 686 Silver Pigeon I, II, III, & V, 687 EELL Diamond Pigeon Beretta Optima (Flush choke is 2.75" with threads at top) Interchanges with Carlson's Optima threads (Models 391A Extrema, 391 Urika 2, DT-10, 682 Gold 391 Teknys, Silver Pigeon II & III) Beretta Optima Plus (Flush choke is 2.75" with threads 3/4" down from top of choke) Interchanges with Carlson's Optima Plus style threads (Models 391A Extrema and 12ga. 391 Teknys TX4) Beretta Optima HP (Flush choke is 2.75" w/threads less than 1/2" from top of choke) Interchanges with Carlson's Optima HP style threads (SV10 Perennia, SV10 Prevail, A400 Xplor, Mod. 1301 & UGB25) Bernardelli No known interchange Black Diamond 12ga Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Browning Invector (Flush choke is 1.5" long w/threads at bottom) Interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads Browning Invector Plus (Flush mount choke is 2.4" long w/threads at bottom) Interchanges with Carlson's Browning Invector Plus (Winchester SX2, SX3, & SXP, New Supreme & 101 models, Browning Maxus, Gold Hunter, Silver, White Lightning) Browning Invector DS (Flush choke is 3.1" long w/threads at top) Interchanges with Carlson's Browning Invector DS (2013 A5, 725 Citori) BSA Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads BSA 20ga Silver Eagle Serial #201836 or higher is Beretta/Benelli style threads. If serial number is below, Huglu style threads Caeser Guerini Interchanges with Fab Arms Century Arms/Kahn Centurion & Arthemis 12ga Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Century Arms/Kahn Centurion & Arthemis 20ga Interchanges with Carlson's Huglu style threads Charles Daly Current production pumps, semi-autos, & Model 206 interchange with Carlson's Remington style threads Charles Daly O/U Made in Italy Current Production O/U, interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads Charles Daly O/U Made in Turkey Interchanges with Carlson's Remington style threads Charles Daly S/S Field II, Model 306, & Model 106 interchange with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Charles Daly Luxe (made in Spain) Interchanges with Carlson's American Arms style threads Churchhill 12ga Call for information Cimarron Interchanges with Carlson's standard Tru-Choke style threads CVA No known interchange CZ USA 12ga including 912, 712, & 612 models Interchanges with Carlson’s Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads CZ USA 20ga and 28ga Interchanges with Carlson's Huglu style threads CZ 28ga Interchanges with Carlson's Huglu style threads DeHaans 12ga Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads DeHaans 20ga Interchanges with Carlson's Huglu style threads Fabarm 12ga Interchanges with Fabarm style threads F.A.I.R. (I Rizzini) Interchanges with Verona LX style threads FN-SLP 12ga Interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads Franchi Affinity 12ga, 20ga, & 28ga Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Franchi: SxS Highlander & O/U SL & SxS Destino No known interchange Franchi (Made Prior to 1999) Interchanges with Carlson's Ber/Benelli Mobil style (612, 712, I-12, Instinct, Renaissance, Aspire, Fenice, Intensity) Franchi I-12 New Sporting Model Interchanges with Carlson's Benelli Crio Plus style threads Gazelle Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Gazelle SPD 310 20ga Interchanges with Carlson's Huglu style threads H&R 1871/N.E.F. 12ga & 20ga Interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads H&R Pardner Pump Interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads H&R Excell Auto 5 with threads at top of choke No known interchange H&R Excell Auto 5 with threads at bottom of choke Interchanges with Carlson's Remington style threads H&R SB 130 Trap & Topper model Interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector, & Mossberg 500 style threads Hastings Choke Tube 1 (Old Style) Interchanges with Carlson's Standard Tru-Choke style threads. Flush mount choke is approx. 1.6" long Hastings Choke Tube 2 Found in Wad Lock Barrels-Interchanges with Carlson's Hastings II choke tubes--Flush choke Approx 2.1" long Hastings Choke Tube 3 Flush choke approx 2.4" long--No known interchange Hatson 12ga Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Hatson 20ga Interchanges with Carlson's Huglu style threads Huglu 12ga Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli style threads Huglu 20ga Interchanges with Carlson's Huglu style threads Ithaca (Old Style-Fine threads) Interchanges with Carlson's standard Tru-Choke style threads Ithaca Model 37 (New Style 12ga.) Interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads Ithaca Model 37 Plus (New Style 12ga.) Interchanges with Carlson's Browning Invector Plus style threads Ithaca 20ga (All New Style 20ga.) Interchanges with Carlson's standard Tru-Choke style threads Lanber 12ga Interchanges with Lanber style threads Lanber Imported by American Arms Interchanges with Carlson's American Arms style threads Laurona (O/U) Interchanges with Carlson's American Arms style threads LC Smith 12ga (Marlin) Threads at top of tube are LC Smith Chokes, at bottom is American Arms LC Smith 20ga (Marlin) Interchanges with Carlson's Fran Choke style threads Legacy Sports Escort, Pointer, & Arms 12ga Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Legacy 20ga Sports Escort & Chokes with threads at top of choke Interchanges with Carlson's Huglu style threads Legacy 12ga Sports/Silma, & Chokes with V-2 Threads at bottom of choke--no known interchange Legacy 12ga Chokes with V-1 Threads at top of choke--Interchange with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Legacy 12ga Chokes with V-2 Threads at bottom of choke--no known interchange Legacy 12ga Chokes with V-3 nterchanges with Carlson's Remington style threads Luger No known interchange Marrochi Golden Snipe Field O/U Interchanges with Carlson's Browning Invector Plus style threads Maverick Model 91 Interchanges with Carlson's 835/935 Mossberg style threads Maverick Model 88 Interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads Miroku Interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads Mitchell Mauser No known interchange Mossberg 500, 535, 930, 9200 & Maverick 88 Interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads Mossberg H 512 Maverick Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Mossberg 835 and 935 Interchanges with Mossberg 835/935 style threads Mossberg SA-20 Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Mossberg Silver Reserve & Onyx 12ga Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Mossberg Silver Reserve & Onyx 20ga Interchanges with Carlson's Huglu style threads New England Threads at bottom of choke=Win, Mossberg 500, Browning Invector style threads. Threads at top of choke=Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Pedersoli Interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads Remington Remington uses three different choke systems--see below Remington Choke (Rem Choke) (Flush choke is 2" long w/threads at bottom) Interchanges with Carlson's Remington style threads (870, 887, 11-87, 1100 & V3) Remington Pro Bore (Flush choke is 2" w/threads at top) Interchanges with Carlson's Pro Bore style threads (105CTi, G3, All Parker Models, New 1100 Competition, Premier O/U, Versa Max, 870 Bone Collector) Remington Spartan (Flush choke is 1.5" w/threads at bottom) Interchanges with Carlson's standard Tru-Choke style threads (SPR or Spartan models) Renato Gambo No known interchange Rizzini USA, (B) & (I) Interchanges with Verona LX style threads Rizzini (E) No known interchange Ruger Older Models Pre 1992 Interchanges with Carlson’s Winchester, Browning Invector, & Mossberg 500 style threads Ruger SC Newer Models Interchanges with Carlson's Ruger SC style threads (Flush choke is 2.4" long) Ruger (Side by Side) Gold Label No known interchange Sako/Tikka 12ga Some interchange with Carlson's Browning Invector Plus and some with Valmet threads Sako/Tikka 12ga Some interchange with Carlson's Browning Invector Plus and some with Valmet threads Savage/Stevens 411 Interchanges with Carlson's standard Tru-Choke style threads Savage/Stevens 512 & 555 Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Savage Gold Wing 20ga Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Savage Milano Interchanges with Verona LX style threads Seminole Interchanges with Verona LX style threads SIG Arms No known interchange SIG Arms (Aurora & SA5) Interchanges with Verona LX style threads SIG Arms (SA3) No known interchange Sile No known interchange SKB Short Style (1.5" long) Interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads SKB Competition (Approx 2") Interchanges with Carlson’s SKB Competition style threads Smith and Wesson Elite Series No known interchange Smith and Wesson Old Version Interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads Smith and Wesson Current version 2007 Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Stevens 350, 67-E, 320 & 24F Interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads Stoeger 2000 Semi Auto & P-350 Pump Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Stoeger Condor (O/U) Interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads Stoeger STF 3000 (O/U) Interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads Stoeger M3000, 3500, & 3020 (semi-auto) Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Stoeger Luger (O/U) Interchanges with Carlson's American Arms style threads Stoeger Uplander (Side by Side) Interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads Traditions by Fausti (threads at bottom of choke) Interchanges with Carlson's American Arms style threads Traditions Semi-Auto AIS2100 12 gauge interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads--20 gauge no known interchange Traditions Volo No known interchange Thompson Center Interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads TriStar Brittany made in Spain Interchanges with Carlson's American Arms style threads TriStar 12ga Cobra, Raptor, Viper G2 Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads TriStar Raptor 20ga Interchanges with Carlson's Huglu or Beretta/Benelli Mobil-Contact us or TriStar to identify which you have TriStar 12ga & 20ga Hunter and 12ga Setter Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads TriStar 20ga Raptor & Setter Interchanges with Carlson's Huglu or Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads-Contact us or TriStar to identify which you have TriStar Phantom 411 and TR11 Interchanges with E-Rizzini style threads TriStar Phantom Field & Model 380D Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads TriStar Phantom HP No known interchange TriStar Silver Series Interchanges with Carlson's American Arms style threads, Serial #4687037 or larger is Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads TriStar TSA 3 1/2" Semi Auto (serial# lower than 11/16240) Interchanges with Carlson's Crio Plus style threads Tri-Star TSA 3 1/2" Semi Auto (serial# higher than 11/16240) Interchanges with Carlson's Optima Plus style threads Valmet Interchanges with Valmet style threads Verona LX O/U Interchanges with Verona LX style threads Verona 980 O/U No known interchange Verona 501 20ga Interchanges with Carlson's Huglu style threads Verona SX Semi Auto Models Interchanges with Verona SX style threads Weatherby Interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads Weatherby SA 20 Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil choke style threads Weatherby SA & PA 08 Threads at bottom of choke = Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads. Threads at top of choke = Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Webley & Scott 900 series Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Winchester 101 (New Model) Interchanges with Carlson's Browning Invector Plus style threads Winchester (1200, 1300, 1400, 1500, & Ranger) Interchanges with Carlson's Winchester, Browning Invector & Mossberg 500 style threads Winchester Select Energy Interchanges with Carlson's Browning Invector Plus style threads Winchester SXP, SX2, SX3, SX4, New Supreme & 101 models Interchanges with Carlson's Browning Invector Plus style threads Winchester Model 59 No known interchange Yildiz No known interchange Zafer 12ga Interchanges with Carlson's Beretta/Benelli Mobil style threads Zoli No known interchange Al Garden View Apiaries where the view is as sweet as the honey. | |||
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Thanks to all of you for your info. Al , that was a lot of keyboard practice and I thank you. | |||
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