Any body put a can on a hornet, I have a rimfire can rated to 5.6x28 comeing. I think if I keep it sub sonic it should work well.

JD

I have a K-hornet contender barrel threaded for my 223 can. It has a 1-12 twist that works well with supersonic bullets, but does poorly with 70 grain round nose at 1050 fps.

My 1-9 twist AR-15 did much better with subsonic loads.

Ranb

Years ago I put a .30 cal Sionics ona 10" Contender .22 Hornet barrel and it worked quite well. The 40 gr Sierra RN Hornet bullet over 1.7 gr Bullseye ran 1075 fps and was very quiet and deadly on small game.

Larry Gibson

Just out of interest what does a sub-sonic hornet do that a .22 rimfire with subsonic ammunition does not?

60gr jhp ast 1050, rather than 60gr soft lead at 750...

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Originally posted by Ghubert:
Just out of interest what does a sub-sonic hornet do that a .22 rimfire with subsonic ammunition does not?

Accuracy is most often better with the jacketed bullet out of the Hornet, especially at 100+ yards. Also with the Hornet you can switch to suppressed sonic loads of 2600+ fps. Yes they "crack" but on the down range end the furry critters are very confused and those not hit usually present an additional shot. Also the "crack" is not readily identifiable as a gunshot and makes for better use in settled/populated areas. Thus 200 +/- shots are quite feasable on varmints.

Larry Gibson

Thank you gents.

I asked as the moderated .22 rimfire with subsonic 40gr lead HP is the most commonly used rifle in the uk.

The principal quarry is rabbits, your cotton-tails, and the effective range is held to be about 100 yards.

My own bunny gun is a Walther KKJ and shoots like this at 80 yards with Eley subsonics:



I've not seen a 60gr at 750 fps load over here, most of ours are 40 gr at 1050 fps.

I did ask a question a little while ago about using a downloaded hornet in a sensitive area to shoot, I would have it suppressed as a matter of course, but ended up being advised that a .222 would be a more versatile rifle.

My apologies for going off topic, but has anyone tried a subsonic .222?

Aguila (Mexico) makes the 60 gr subsonic 22 LR. They call it the Sniper Subsonic (SSS). Odd looking as the overall length is the same but the case length is same as a 22 short. Actual MV is closer to 950 FPS. They were also the first to neck the 22 LR to 17. Called the 17 Aquila and/or the 17 High Standard and will fire in the Hornady 17 HM2 chamber. I don't know about the other way around.

I'd be surprised if someone on your side of the pond wasn't importing Aguila ammo?

Ghubert

My Contender suppressed .22 Hornet would put 5 shots clustered like your top 3 at 100 yards with the .224 Sierra 45 gr Hornet bullet at 1050 fps.....better accuracy, more power than a lot of subsonic .22LR.

Larry Gibson

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Originally posted by tiggertate:
Aguila (Mexico) makes the 60 gr subsonic 22 LR. They call it the Sniper Subsonic (SSS). Odd looking as the overall length is the same but the case length is same as a 22 short. Actual MV is closer to 950 FPS. They were also the first to neck the 22 LR to 17. Called the 17 Aquila and/or the 17 High Standard and will fire in the Hornady 17 HM2 chamber. I don't know about the other way around.

I'd be surprised if someone on your side of the pond wasn't importing Aguila ammo?

I think somebody must bring in the occasional lump of Aguila but it appears to have no direct importer.

It looks an interesting load, a couple of questions if you've used it; does it have a hollowpoint and its it more prone to ricochet than normal subsonics? We have to be very careful of ricochets in the uk, rimfires can be more dangerous to use than centrefires in certain circumstances.

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Originally posted by Larry Gibson:
Ghubert

My Contender suppressed .22 Hornet would put 5 shots clustered like your top 3 at 100 yards with the .224 Sierra 45 gr Hornet bullet at 1050 fps.....better accuracy, more power than a lot of subsonic .22LR.

Larry Gibson

Sounds interesting Larry, I posted this thread a while ago: http://forums.accuratereloadin...8711043/m/1051051151 and thought I'd wanted a hornet with the option of full-house or subs by the end of it.

With accuracy like that and it remaining subsonic I'm very interested.

How do those 45grain bullets open up and subsonic speeds?

Would you mind sharing your data? We can get most American powders here.

Best,

A

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Originally posted by Ghubert:

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Originally posted by tiggertate:
Aguila (Mexico) makes the 60 gr subsonic 22 LR. They call it the Sniper Subsonic (SSS). Odd looking as the overall length is the same but the case length is same as a 22 short. Actual MV is closer to 950 FPS. They were also the first to neck the 22 LR to 17. Called the 17 Aquila and/or the 17 High Standard and will fire in the Hornady 17 HM2 chamber. I don't know about the other way around.

I'd be surprised if someone on your side of the pond wasn't importing Aguila ammo?

I think somebody must bring in the occasional lump of Aguila but it appears to have no direct importer.

It looks an interesting load, a couple of questions if you've used it; does it have a hollowpoint and its it more prone to ricochet than normal subsonics? We have to be very careful of ricochets in the uk, rimfires can be more dangerous to use than centrefires in certain circumstances.

I think the answer is yes, no and no. I think all solids richochet more than HPs (which have their own fair share) but I doubt the SSS is worse than the normal standard solid bullet. It also would have substantially less range as a richochet due to the elongation and subsequent increase in drag.

I've shot 200-300 rounds of it but at inclinations and targets that didn't tend to encourage richochets.

I developed a subsonic load in my K-Hornet several years ago to take care some squirrels. I used a cast Lyman bullet, unsized and tumbled in liquid alox in front of half a grain of Accurate Arms #2, and a cotton pellet to keep the powder against the small pistol primer. Dead silent and a single hole five-shot group at 25 yards. All you heard was the click of the hammer falling. Only drawback was the cotton pellet would lodge in the barrel and you had to blow it out!

I think you could vary the powder charge by a couple of tenths or so to see how high you can go, but a full grain of the AA #2 was supersonic; you could hear the crack... And I didn't try shooting without the pellet.