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Was lucky enough to be invited as a guest of DLS (who posts here) and one of the other hunter's took a very cool hybrid duck.

Mallard head (picture doesn't show just how green it was)

Pintail bill.

Pintail wings.

Sorta Gadwall feet.

1/2 Mallard 1/2 pintail tail.








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Mike, glad you were able to join us. It was nice to be able to share a duckblind with you again.

John (the guy who shot this bird) took the bird to a taxidermist today and they had someone that knows about this stuff confirm that the bird is indeed a mallard-pintail hybrid. He is getting it mounted so as to best display the unusual colors and characteristics of this wonderful bird.
 
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And I was going to say I bet he tasted just fine...

I’ve shot a few hybrids up here, but since it’s usually early season and they are full of pin feathers, mounting them was not something I thought about.

Very interesting looking bird!
 
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several years back while hunting on a warm water creek one of these cross birds came in and was taken by another hunter right in front of me, same deal pintail mallard cross, much more pronounced colors, pretty cool deal

congrats on taking such a special bird
 
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Very cool duck!


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Over the years I've taken a number of Mallard/Black Mallard hybrids and one prized Ross goose with the blue goose color genes, but never any other crosses. That is one prize bird Mike, thanks for sharing!



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I've killed several locally. Mostly mallard X black duck but have seen mallard x pintail and one oddball we thought was a gadwall or mallard x wigeon but no definitive ID. Here's an obvious mallard x black duck shot locally. They're not common, but not what I'd consider to be rare, either. Never thought to mount one. Maybe after I finish collecting all NA purebreds I'll think about the half-breeds... Wink.


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Cool

Here in NZ we get the introduced mallard crossing with the native grey duck.

The greys are similar to a mallard hen with eye brow etc. But they are a bit smaller, fly low and fast and their courtship head bob is unique.


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I've heard it swift a Mallard drake will mate with anything that stands flat footed.mI have seen a Mallard Pintail cross. The white marking on the side of the head was green where a Pin has white.. Beautiful bird.


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Very cool. Thank you. I have read that hybridization with mallards is hurting black duck numbers. What do you guys who hunt them think?
 
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And I was going to say I bet he tasted just fine...

I’ve shot a few hybrids up here, but since it’s usually early season and they are full of pin feathers, mounting them was not something I thought about.

Very interesting looking bird!


Charles, if it wasn’t getting mounted, it would have tasted great. All those corn fed mallards we hunt taste fantastic. As it is, we’ll get to see him on the wall every time we go to the duck club next season.

I think Mike has re-discovered how much he enjoys duck hunting! Wink
 
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Very cool. Thank you. I have read that hybridization with mallards is hurting black duck numbers. What do you guys who hunt them think?


I don't know about hurting black duck numbers, but from what I've read and been told by local bird biologists, it's becoming more and more difficult to find true pure-bred black ducks. A large % of the black ducks now have mallard blood in them. Supposedly the tell tale sign is white on the trailing edge of the speculum.


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Supposedly the tell tale sign is white on the trailing edge of the speculum.

This is true, as is the fact that Mallards especially will breed or attempt to breed other species of waterfowl. Several factors are contributing to the decline of American Black duck numbers and this would be one of several things to point too. Here in my part of the world, we're seeing less of the wary "red legs."


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http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007
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Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more
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Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
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10 days in the Stormberg Mountains
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322
Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232

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Here in my part of the world, we're seeing less of the wary "red legs."


You have black ducks in TN? Edit: just looked it up and apparently TN does get migratory BDs. Didn't know that. Cool.


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