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Pacific Eiders are a sub-species of the Common Eider. They are found in good numbers in the Northern Pacific and Bering Sea. However, access to hunting areas is very very very hard. From a size perspective they are quite bigger than the biggest Atlantic Common Eider. Lobes are also quite different. Atlatnic Eider has sort of round lobes, the Pacific Eider has pointy lobes.  | ||
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Very nice, as usual.......can you post Atlantic commons(which we kill all the time here)just for a side-by-side comparison? | |||
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Here you go Norton.  Also there is a black "V" under the chin of the male Pacific Eider. The male Atlantic Eider does not have a "V" under the chin. However, the male Borealis sub-species (aka Northern Common Eider) sometimes has a slight "V" under the chin. | |||
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Interesting....the bill is usually yellow on the ones we kill here.....as below  | |||
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My close buddy is a seaduck guide, and has taken a few Borealis eider in the past decade here in New England. The difference is clear with the lobes. I'll post a pic if I can find it. As usual, great stuff, Collector. I appreciate your input here very much. ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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@Norton, Not that I have personally shot all bill color variants of the Atlantic Common Eider but the bill color comes in all forms of yellow, green, to dark olive. The eidah in your pic seems to have white breast feathers all the way...most I have shot personally (mature males) have a lot of peach color. @Kamo Gari Here is the lobe comparison I made a little while ago. Problem with New England shot Borealis is that sometimes they are inter-grade birds (in the past generations maybe a Borealis got frisky with an Atlantic)..I have also seen pics of Atlantics with very very very faint black V's under the chin.  Problem is that you get a biologist involved in the sub-species discussion and they start nit-picking every damn detail, every trait, every color variation and the way the duck farts under water and the bubbles don't come out. Hell some of them want to declare the Pacific Eider as its own full species and no matter what you say will never be good enough for them. Unfortunately I am friends with some of those characters and it is great to agree or disagree as long as no one gets upset. | |||
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Less detail here but pretty typical eiders around here....and a scoter slam.....please excuse the hens that KG shot   | |||
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@Norton That is a sweet pile-o-ducks  We call your scoter slam the "Chesapeake Tri-fecta" in our neck of the woods. I believe the term was coined by Pitboss. We do not get the White-wings in the Chesapeake like we used to...Skunkheads (Surf) and Blacks (Common) however are always in good numbers and they start arriving in October. A fully plumed White-wing drake on the Chesapeake is becoming a scarce commodity. Also....the White-wings are just a tad bit different on the West Coast in size and coloration. Black Scoters sub-species in Europe are absolutely different, their bill shape and coloration is very very different. So in the pic I do see the peach color on both of your Eider drakes. The bill on the left seems much lighter in color than the one on the right. Maybe it is because of the light playing tricks. HENS: Well when I was young and full of piss & vinegar I used to let them go. Now days they get a free pas until about 8:30...after that they are fair game | |||
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But aren't the hens much better eating than the bulls  Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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Ha ha ha...well the juveniles are actually much better eating than mature hens | |||
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Hens that I shot? Sheeit. That's the thanks you get for taking a noob along. Hell, ole Norty thought those hen eider were funny-looking black ducks! ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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BTW, that common scoter is now in my bird cabinet! ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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Must have taken some skilled taxidermy work to repair the holes I'm sure I put in it with my SBEII.  | |||
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It did. But then fixing imaginary holes fired by imaginary discharges is only a matter of using a skilled imagination. C'mon. Do you really not remember the kid cartwheeling that common into the drink at 45 yards? Going away, hooking left. Any bells ringing? Bah. Next thing you know you're going to tell me you shot the banded goose I let you have last year...  ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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